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Old 10-04-2006, 01:08 PM
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You gotta love it - Its great stuff man.....
Excellent seems like an understatement.

Of course I have only watched them four times as of now, but I am sure there is more watching time in the future. Really a lot of information and explanation of TGM, beyond the motion.

This is the second series that I think you all have reached new standard heights.

Nothing like a trip to the swamp where the cows can be heard and there is music in the air...

Great stuff....
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Old 10-04-2006, 01:15 PM
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Great stuff. Interesting that Jeff states he's able to think mechanically while playing a round. Jeff, do you limit how many things you key on, like what keeps you in precision that day? Or do you have a checklist that you go through?
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rchang72
Great stuff. Interesting that Jeff states he's able to think mechanically while playing a round. Jeff, do you limit how many things you key on, like what keeps you in precision that day? Or do you have a checklist that you go through?
I know this may sound strange but I am totally lost without a mechanical thought. In fact I tried to play for a while only focusing on the target and I hit the ball all over the place.

Just like a computer I try to imput the information I need to hit every shot. Once the information is in I rehearse the pattern and look,look,look in order to make sure it is correct (everyone thinks I am trying to copy Weir or Dimarco but I have been making downstroke waggles for a long time). Once I am satisfied I pull the trigger.

I have found that if I only focus on the pattern that produces the shot I need, I do not worry about hazards on the course. It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:22 AM
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I know this may sound strange but I am totally lost without a mechanical thought. In fact I tried to play for a while only focusing on the target and I hit the ball all over the place.

Just like a computer I try to imput the information I need to hit every shot. Once the information is in I rehearse the pattern and look,look,look in order to make sure it is correct (everyone thinks I am trying to copy Weir or Dimarco but I have been making downstroke waggles for a long time). Once I am satisfied I pull the trigger.

I have found that if I only focus on the pattern that produces the shot I need, I do not worry about hazards on the course. It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
I think you are on to something. . . .

All these Mental Guru's talk about Process Thinking versus Outcome Thinking . . . But then they tell you to focus on the target. Ain't that the "outcome?" I would say mechanics HAS to be the PROCESS . . . Period. I think Chapter 5 is HUGE in this regard.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:23 AM
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It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
This is one of the best things I have read in a long time.

It is the Fifth Programming Routine of Chapter 14 -- a complete shift from "Ball Action" to "You Action."

It is the non-emotional execution of your procedure.

It is the Mental Game in a nutshell.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the video

Yoda,
I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?

Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?

One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?

Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:48 AM
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Thanks for the video

Yoda,
I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?

Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?

One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?

Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:38 PM
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.
So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?

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Old 10-05-2006, 10:59 AM
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The Throws -- Release Triggers
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Yoda,

I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.
Thanks for your comments on our video, noproblemos. We appreciate them!

I am sure there are many references to the various "Throws" in my posts. Search the Archives for the Release Triggers (10-20). That is what the Throws are -- the five Release Triggers.
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:30 AM
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Jeff clearly shows how the club head swivels against the plane on the back swing. A lot of motion in that right forearm/elbow. This one alignment seems key to letting the throw/left arm karate chop to do their powerful work. Thanks.
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