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Old 09-14-2006, 03:03 PM
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Little bit of misinformation
Just want to let everyone know that if you find a square retail golf club, you are truly lucky. Even the TP versions are between 1.5 and .5 degrees closed, and still have the draw bias, although less than the non-tp versions. The only way to truly have a square or open face and remove draw bias is to 1) Have hot melt added to the head and get it cranked open, or 2) Buy a tour issue driver.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:18 PM
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I personally think the whole open-faced, closed-faced thing is overrated. I can draw or fade just about any club I have at will, be it be it a Duffy ridge top 200 tour fairway wood, a closed face, draw biased Nicklaus Air Max driver, my old non offset Hogan Director irons or my hook faced Cleveland TA-5 irons. Same for shafts. My shaft flexes are all over the place. The only club I have that I have I have trouble drawing is a Nickent Genex 3dx 20* hackstick with a ladies flex shaft. It likes to make about a 2-3 yard fade. Go figgure.
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:32 AM
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Yes but think of this. when your playing with a closed face, you have to move the ball further back in the stance. To effectively hit the driver, it needs to be forward in your stance, to hit it right at low point. Also, when your playing with a driver a little open, you have no fear of the big left miss, and you can aggressively horizontal hinge. Just my take.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jewofgolf
Yes but think of this. when your playing with a closed face, you have to move the ball further back in the stance. To effectively hit the driver, it needs to be forward in your stance, to hit it right at low point. Also, when your playing with a driver a little open, you have no fear of the big left miss, and you can aggressively horizontal hinge. Just my take.
I agree,thats why I bought the TP.With the standard R5 if I got too agressive -look out left!
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:24 AM
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Yes but think of this. when your playing with a closed face, you have to move the ball further back in the stance. To effectively hit the driver, it needs to be forward in your stance, to hit it right at low point. Also, when your playing with a driver a little open, you have no fear of the big left miss, and you can aggressively horizontal hinge. Just my take.
Yes, or you can open the face on your driver (or any club) the one degree or so necessary to make the face square, just as you would a wedge in a bunker. Then you don't have to move the ball back in your stance.

The point I'm making is, it's the Indian, not the Arrow. I'm not against tweeking clubs, or buying tour equipment (and believe me, I have been just as guilty of being a major club ho as any member of this site), but if you are a good ball striker, any equipment will get the job done.

If you fight a hook, you can fix your machine, or you can spend a small fortune on a genuwhine deeluxe Koolaide tour head bent open with a limited edition moon rock XXX Diarazmataz custom painted shaft (logo down, and grip reversed, cuz them letters, Golf Pride, is sooo distracting). I can even refer you to the web site of a certain snake oil salesman who will be happy to personally fit you (for a mere $1000 a pop for the fitting alone) with this fine gear.

(lotsa smiley faces here to let you know I'm speaking in the spirit of jest).
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by efnef

If you fight a hook, you can fix your machine, or you can spend a small fortune on a genuwhine deeluxe Koolaide tour head bent open with a limited edition moon rock XXX Diarazmataz custom painted shaft (logo down, and grip reversed, cuz them letters, Golf Pride, is sooo distracting). I can even refer you to the web site of a certain snake oil salesman who will be happy to personally fit you (for a mere $1000 a pop for the fitting alone) with this fine gear.

(lotsa smiley faces here to let you know I'm speaking in the spirit of jest).
That is pretty funny -
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:15 PM
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Yes, or you can open the face on your driver (or any club) the one degree or so necessary to make the face square, just as you would a wedge in a bunker. Then you don't have to move the ball back in your stance.

The point I'm making is, it's the Indian, not the Arrow. I'm not against tweeking clubs, or buying tour equipment (and believe me, I have been just as guilty of being a major club ho as any member of this site), but if you are a good ball striker, any equipment will get the job done.

If you fight a hook, you can fix your machine, or you can spend a small fortune on a genuwhine deeluxe Koolaide tour head bent open with a limited edition moon rock XXX Diarazmataz custom painted shaft (logo down, and grip reversed, cuz them letters, Golf Pride, is sooo distracting). I can even refer you to the web site of a certain snake oil salesman who will be happy to personally fit you (for a mere $1000 a pop for the fitting alone) with this fine gear.

(lotsa smiley faces here to let you know I'm speaking in the spirit of jest).
Although you speak in the spirit of jest, there is a lotta truth in there too!

I'm kinda picky about my clubs (fitted irons and woods) and I don't change too often (now putters are a diff story).

I was in Myrtle Beach on business a few years ago. Got a chance to play a round of golf but I didn't have any clubs with me. So I use the shop rentals (Wilsons with the "fat shafts") and I bought a sleeve of "gently used Titleist Professional" balls (you know the ones they recover from a lake and repaint and that go out of round after 1 or 2 shots). I think I shot 71 with that set-up. Go figure.
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