"An "On Plane" Right Shoulder from Start Down to Follow Through"
Impossible....
Think of it this way - the left arm and clubshaft are inline at followthrough.... thus the left arm is onplane and if this straight line is onplane this means the left shoulder is onplane.... Ok now think if the right shoulder is onplane at followthrough which by definition is both arms straight... both shoulders must be onplane, now if both shoulders are onplane and lets say for simplification purposes, you are using the between the shoulders pivot center point which you are a fan of anyways...
Now with this information imagine the stroke in reverse from follow through backwards. Both shoulders are onplane - the point between the shoulders is onplane - now as the right shoulder goes back to the top ... how can the left shoulder ever leave the inclined plane - hint hint it can't....
The onplane right shoulder movement occurs during the initial startdown to throw the primary lever assembly via creating a pressure at pp4 to drive it into impact..... it cannot stay onplane till followthrough....
"An "On Plane" Right Shoulder from Start Down to Follow Through"
Impossible....
Think of it this way - the left arm and clubshaft are inline at followthrough.... thus the left arm is onplane and if this straight line is onplane this means the left shoulder is onplane.... Ok now think if the right shoulder is onplane at followthrough which by definition is both arms straight... both shoulders must be onplane, now if both shoulders are onplane and lets say for simplification purposes, you are using the between the shoulders pivot center point which you are a fan of anyways...
Now with this information imagine the stroke in reverse from follow through backwards. Both shoulders are onplane - the point between the shoulders is onplane - now as the right shoulder goes back to the top ... how can the left shoulder ever leave the inclined plane - hint hint it can't....
The onplane right shoulder movement occurs during the initial startdown to throw the primary lever assembly via creating a pressure at pp4 to drive it into impact..... it cannot stay onplane till followthrough....
Disagree - does anyone believe the downswing is a simple pivot around the spine? Isn't this necessary for your argument to hold?
Disagree - does anyone believe the downswing is a simple pivot around the spine? Isn't this necessary for your argument to hold?
Chris
This is a power package issue and you if try to draw an onplane right shoulder in 3d with the primary lever assembly being inline at followthrough, you'll see exactly what I mean.
Try to give some good advice...and this is what I get ;(
Originally Posted by tongzilla
I'll take the bait for the first part of your question.
Flat Left Wrist from Start Up to Follow Through
Right Forearm and Clubshaft Tracing the Straight Plane Line during Release
The perpendicular relationship of the Flying Wedges: the Flat Left Wrist and Level Right Wrist
An "On Plane" Right Shoulder from Start Down to Follow Through to give the right amount of Axis Tilt and Hip Slide
All Pivot Components moving parallel to your selected Delivery Line (usually the Plane Line) at Start Down
A fixed Pivot Center
A 10-2-B Grip with no wobble in Clubshaft attachment during the entire motion
I stand by my post. Lekommend asked what the most important alignments are in a Golf Stroke, and I gave it a shot. I don't understand why people try so hard to discredit what I say. I think the advice I gave is good advice, so why try to make it sound so bad? I said "On Plane", not On Plane (and no, I didn't just edit it), because I realised at the time of writing that you don't have to use the Turned Shoulder Plane at Impact. Look at 10-13-D #3, the photo with the caption, "End of Follow Through". What do you guys think that arrow in the photo is pointing at? Yes, that's right, it's pointing at the Right Shoulder socket. Oh, look, it just so happens that the tip of the arrow also points at the Inclined Plane. But it doesn't mean your Right Shoulder always has to be on the same Plane as the Clubshaft at Follow Through (or even Impact). Just look at the down-the-line angle of Lee Trevino at Impact (12 PIECE BUCKET, need your here. Please post that photo (or the whole sequence) here for our reference. Thanks!). He clearly uses the Elbow Plane, and note how far "above plane" his Right Shoulder is. But the important thing is that his Right Shoulder isn't coming from the outside -- it's still going Down and Out relative to the Plane Line (which is Open in that sequence). He's even hitting a classic "Trevino Fade" there.
So that's that. I really don't have the time nor inclination to argue any more about this point.
Please help me for more understanding some other exactly defined components of the golf swing as Homer Kelley would agree to.
1. what are considered the most important alignments in the uncompensating swing? and
2. How does a golfer maintain them throughout the swing?
Golf is frustrating when no answer is available, the answer that is simple to understand and without omissions.
Thanks in advance to LBG TGM qualified Instructor here and anyone who shared for clarification.
1. The head.
2. "Sustain the lag" with a rotating, spinning or turnning pivot.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
Hybrid Mode
