Try something WAY weaker, and you'll like 'em fine.
I'm TOTALLY satisfied with my HG's which are somewhere in the X-100 (dynamic range). But, sometimes I have a student with Rifles and I want to demonstrate something. Like I said, I've tried all their flexes. Weak is horrible, stiff is less horrible, it doesn't matter. HG doesn't use Rifles, so it's of no consequence. HG also SST PURE's all of their shafts. I don't think there's another company in the market that goes that extra mile.
IMO....Rifles suck.....They play very stiff and quite inconsistent...
I have rifles and am not a fan of how they feel; thinking about trading in the clubs because of the shafts, actually. That being said, I know others who seem to like them.
Has anyone tried Tom Wishon clubs? If you have, what do you think?
I play a full set of Wishon clubs. The only club I don't like all that much is the driver. Tom's drivers are mostly setup for people who need help getting a higher launch angle. I don't really need that. The fairway woods are awesome. I play the 515GRTs in both 3W and 5W. I shafted them with Aldila NVS75 in stiff flex. They are easy to get up off the deck and hit it a long way.
I also play Wishon hybrids for my 3I and 4I replacements. Very iron like club and easy to hit. I have these shafted with Grafalloy Blue Pro Launch hybrid shaft in stiff flex. They are still a little soft, but that makes it easy to hit'em high.
I play the Wishon 550s in my irons with Harrison Premier Lite 85 steel shafts in regular flex. Nice lightweight steel shaft. I play the blades up to 6I and the 5I is the cavity back. These are solid irons. They are very controllable and not hard to hit for blades. Trajectory is medium for me.
Finally I went with a 52* / 58* wedges to go along with my PW. I picked a 56* / 60* of different styles to get the wider sole I was looking for and had Wishon cherry pick / bend to get me the loft I wanted (they are very good about that). Both clubs have smallish bounce (8*), but a wider sole. This is a nice compromise that lets me play'em from the sand as well as the fairway.
All in all Wishon's clubs are very high quality, the service is great, and the price is reasonable. Everything in my bag at the moment is a long term keeper except the driver.
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Distance is Magic; Precision is Practice.
Wishon has been described as the smartest man in golf. He's got a fantastic book Search for the Perfect Club. Great read and very good information. Don't have any of his sticks but you can bet your petutie that whatever he puts out is good.
I play a full set of Wishon clubs. The only club I don't like all that much is the driver. Tom's drivers are mostly setup for people who need help getting a higher launch angle. I don't really need that. The fairway woods are awesome. I play the 515GRTs in both 3W and 5W. I shafted them with Aldila NVS75 in stiff flex. They are easy to get up off the deck and hit it a long way.
I also play Wishon hybrids for my 3I and 4I replacements. Very iron like club and easy to hit. I have these shafted with Grafalloy Blue Pro Launch hybrid shaft in stiff flex. They are still a little soft, but that makes it easy to hit'em high.
I play the Wishon 550s in my irons with Harrison Premier Lite 85 steel shafts in regular flex. Nice lightweight steel shaft. I play the blades up to 6I and the 5I is the cavity back. These are solid irons. They are very controllable and not hard to hit for blades. Trajectory is medium for me.
Finally I went with a 52* / 58* wedges to go along with my PW. I picked a 56* / 60* of different styles to get the wider sole I was looking for and had Wishon cherry pick / bend to get me the loft I wanted (they are very good about that). Both clubs have smallish bounce (8*), but a wider sole. This is a nice compromise that lets me play'em from the sand as well as the fairway.
All in all Wishon's clubs are very high quality, the service is great, and the price is reasonable. Everything in my bag at the moment is a long term keeper except the driver.
Great post, Steph!
For the rest of us...
Any questions?
P.S. Did anybody else read that post and have visions of My Cousin Vinny and Mona Lisa Vito in the witness chair? This gal Thinkingplus has Game and knows her gear!
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D.A. Jim Trotter: Now, Ms. Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
Mona Lisa Vito: That's a bullshit question.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Does that mean that you can't answer it?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question, it's impossible to answer.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Impossible because you don't know the answer!
Mona Lisa Vito: Nobody could answer that question!
D.A. Jim Trotter: Your Honor, I move to disqualify Ms. Vito as an expert witness!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Can you answer the question?
Mona Lisa Vito: No, it is a trick question!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Why is it a trick question?
Vinny Gambini: [to Bill] Watch this.
Mona Lisa Vito: 'Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55, the 327 didn't come out till '63. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till '64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Well... uh... she's acceptable, Your Honor.
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Vinny Gambini: Ms. Vito, it has been argued by me, the defense, that two sets of guys met up at the Sac-O-Suds, at the same time, driving identical metallic mint green 1964 Buick Skylark convertibles. Now, can you tell us by what you see in this picture, if the defense's case holds water?
[Lisa examines the picture]
Vinny Gambini: Ms. Vito, please answer the question: does the defense's case hold water?
Mona Lisa Vito: No! The defense is wrong!
Vinny Gambini: Are you sure?
Mona Lisa Vito: I'm positive.
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Vinny Gambini: How could you be so sure?
Mona Lisa Vito: Because there is no way that these tire marks were made by a '64 Buick Skylark convertible. These marks were made by a 1963 Pontiac Tempest.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Objection, Your Honor! Can we clarify to the court whether the witness is stating opinion or fact?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: This is your opinion?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a fact!
Vinny Gambini: I find it hard to believe that this kind of information could be ascertained simply by looking at a picture!
Mona Lisa Vito: Would you like me to explain?
Vinny Gambini: I would love to hear this!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: So would I.
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Mona Lisa Vito: The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make these marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!
Vinny Gambini: And why not? What is positraction?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.
[the jury members nod, with murmurs of "yes," "that's right," etc]
Vinny Gambini: Is that it?
Mona Lisa Vito: No, there's more! You see where the left tire mark goes up on the curb and the right tire mark stays flat and even? Well, the '64 Skylark had a solid rear axle, so when the left tire would go up on the curb, the right tire would tilt out and ride along its edge. But that didn't happen here. The tire mark stayed flat and even. This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.
Vinny Gambini: And because both cars were made by GM, were both cars available in metallic mint green paint?
Mona Lisa Vito: They were!
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, Ms. Vito. No more questions. Thank you very much.
[kissing her hands]
Vinny Gambini: You've been a lovely, lovely witness.
Has anyone tried Tom Wishon clubs? If you have, what do you think?
I play the 915 CFE driver with InterFlexx shaft and I love it
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