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Old 03-01-2006, 10:44 AM
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Awesome. Thank you Mike.

Mr. "swinging force" - Ernest Jones

One thing I have noticed is that many top instructors over the ages have all agreed that a feel for the clubhead is critical. The best among them also understood the importance of the hands!

Ernest Jones is one of the all time best.

Thanks again for this post. Wonderful stuff. - EdZ
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:04 PM
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Swing the Hands -- Not the Clubhead
Ernest Jones was a great Golf Instructor. No question.

And his idea to "Swing the Clubhead" and let Centrifugal Force do all the work is simple and intuitively appealing. Under the watchful eye of a competent Instructor, that approach can yield spectacular results. In fact, Homer Kelley himself embraced the correct application of the concept in Chapter Five with his admonition to "Swing the Hands."

Unfortunately, Swinging the Clubhead from the Wrists is far different than Swinging the entire Golf Club with the Hands, and the average Golfer does not make the distinction. As a result, instead of the fine Golf Swings Mr. Jones envisioned, we continue to see the same Clubhead Swinging Wrist Bending that has plagued virtually all Golfers for centuries.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:18 PM
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Homer did take it to the next Level. He took the 'seems as ifs' out of the body and showed that the body pivot is the "great corridor" of the golf stroke.

Find that MacDonald book, Lynn?
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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The benefit of learning to 'swing the clubhead' as Ernest Jones described is, I would agree, not clubHEAD control ironically.

It is the Rhythm of the swinging force.

The element of time that is critical to efficient motion.

This is an important difference.

If you can obtain the tempo of the 'swinging force' and add the understanding that you want to drive the force downplane, to a spot in front of the ball - low point is under the ground ahead of the ball - then the full appreciation for 'swinging the clubhead' can be realized and the beauty of 'swinging the hands' can be understood.

Feel the pressure points in the hands.

"swing" the pressure points in the hands.
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wedges v hands
Mulling over Lynn’s comment about hands vs wrists- we swing our flying wedges, others swing uneducated flappers they call hands. BIG difference.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:04 AM
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"have always wondered why so many of the Ernest Jones people feel that TGM and Homer Kelley are the anti-Jones, the opposite of what they perceive the clubhead swing is all about."

Because most ppl's introduction to TGM is through some rant in an internet forum with some guy using a lot of jargon that no one w/out the book understands. Most talk about TGM appears to be very technical and overbearing. I've actually seen ppl cut n paste posts from tgm'ers to mock and to use as proof why TGM is over complicated. Maybe TGM needs a makeover a lil PR and positive press. I think evershed does a great job teaching tgm priciples-w/out teaching tgm
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