Does a Swinger to anything to square the face?

[Doug]

Just been toying around at the range, I'm a natural hitter, but like to practice swinging just for a change of pace sometimes. My question is does a natural swinger do anything to actively square the face, or does centrifugal force take care of it on its own. Is the face taken care of by your setup alignments then just let it go??

I can say that when I swing, I am a club longer with all my irons than when I hit. Swinging is tough in that you truly have to trust that the club will square up as opposed to hitting where I feel I can control the face better.

Here is a copy of one of Yoda's best ever posts...

femoore wrote:
So... even if one FEELS the release of the #2 accumulator very early in the downstroke, the preceding #4 release causes the club to actually be accelerated longitudinally, loading the Lag. Also, the Feel of WHEN these accumulators release, may actually be quite different than when they really do release, when viewed on video. For example, the FEEL of an early #2 accumulator release might actually be late, and vice versa.
denny wrote:
I and Croker and many others would like to "STOP THE INSANITY" of pulling to release pt. and then then throw. I wish people who teach this would teach our sex education classes then we wouldn't have a population problem. In an athletic toss(of a ball or tomahack the thrower may feel as if they uncocking wrist but the arm moves faster and does not let wrist uncock (unless they throw like a girl). "As soon as I transfer my weight I start releasing the club hard with my hands and wrist"------JACK NICKLAUSHold the angle and then throw Ain't happening in the same downswing.
Denny's point is well taken. As is feemore's in the prior post. What is actually happening in the Swinger's Stroke -- the Drag to Release Point followed by the Release Trigger (Throw) -- may not Feel like that! Nevertheless, you should in Slow Motion deliberately Practice the absolutely correct Mechanics in order to precisely Program your Computer. Look, look, LOOK in the mirror to make sure you're getting it right. Then, Practice the same Motion with your eyes closed. Only when the correct Mechanics have been thoroughly programmed can you turn your Feel System loose and trust your Total Motion to deliver the result you seek. In my January 13th post in the Forum The Golfing Machine / Power Package / The #3 Accumulator, I explained how to go about this: And here is one final, very important point. The #3 Accumulator is called Transfer Power for a reason: Especially in the Sequenced Release (4-D-0) of Swingers, it transfers the Power of the Released #2 Accumulator (Left Wrist Cock) into the Rolling Left Forearm and Hand. You should deliberately attempt to Feel this happening and do everything you can to encourage its Action. Here's how to do it: From the Top, Drag Load (7-19) by Pulling the Butt End of the Club toward the Plane Line. Immediately thereafter, begin a Non-Automatic Random Sweep Release (10-24-B) -- later you can 'kick it up a notch' with the Automatic Snap Release of 10-24-E -- by Uncocking your Left Wrist strongly Downward, also toward the Plane Line. That takes only a fraction of a second, and just as soon as you Feel the strong, Downward Uncocking Motion underway, use its momentum to begin the Roll of your #3 Angle On Line through Impact. You've Launched a Three-Stage Rocket: The Drag Load established your initial Thrust; your Uncocking Left Wrist created the highest Velocity you will be able to achieve; and the #3 Accumulator picked up that Velocity and sustained it into Impact. With Practice, this Sequenced Release blends into a single unified Motion and creates truly effortless, mystifying and almost magical Power. And when you get it right... You're not going to believe it!Remember, you have a nervous system that requires time to transmit its messages. And from Start-Down to Release just ain't a lot of time. So, once you Start Down... Get with The Program! _________________Yoda

[strav]

And here, what we are doing from the Top, is literally throwing the Clubhead down the Plane at the inside quadrant of the ball and what happens at this point - as the right arm straightens out, it squares the Clubface. You don’t have to square the Clubface. The Clubface will square itself.

Tom Tomasello
Video letter to Lee Dietnck
Chapter 1 5.37min.

[jim_0068]

TBall..if you hit the irons longer "swinging" than "hitting" than it sounds like it's a clubfitting issue. Hitter's tend to like/perform better with heavier/tip stiff shafts and swingers tend to like/perform better with lighter/softer tip shafts.

It's not a "stead fast rule" but it is a change that i've noticed in both clubfitting and stroke style.

For instance, I've been giving GolfChicago some tips on how to become a better "hitter" of the golf ball. I've gone out to his club twice and i told him the first time that he'd probably end up with either a lower lofted driver or something heavier and tip stiff in the shaft because he was using a 9.5 head with a Fuji Six (light and very tip soft) and he started using the same head with a heaiver much tip stiffer Mitsu Rayon Shax shaft and the difference was readily apparnet. Much flatter flight with less spin and longer drives.