I'm recently trying to relearn TGM from initial studies back in the early 90's primarily due to your web site input..Thank you..
I have a new shot however. It is that I can pop up my hybrids (19 & 23 degree Quick Strike Golfsmith types) probably 30 feet in the air and maybe 30 yards long..I've done this on a slight downhill lie and uphill lie as well...Each time the low point of my divots were about 4" in front of the ball..It's almost like I'm driving the ball into an 80 degree sloped hill with a hybrid..It doesn't happen all the time
I naturally trap and hit the ball quite low anyway and shoot in the mid 70's more times than not...The rest of my clubs seem to be fine and hit normal straightish shots
Does anyone else have this problem with the shallow faced hybrids? Thanks for your help
Does the low point of your divot have the correct relationship with the low point of a geometrically correct golf stroke...namely the left shoulder? It could be as simple as a ball position too far up plane. I match the low point of my divot with my left shoulder, not neccessarily four inches in front of the ball.
Thank you for your immediate reply...My ball position at address is just inside my left heel..I'd say my left shoulder is at least 4 in front of the ball @ impact...My low point fulcrum/shoulder might even be slightly more than 4 inches ahead of the ball but the hybrid head comes back up out of the ground..In other words, if I tee up a hybrid slightly the low point is about 5 inches ahead of the ball..I grew up on a hard pan GC and natuarlly really lean on the shaft...
I may be missing something but I would say if the ball is five inches back of your left shoulder then it may be too far "back in your stance." I think it is about 6 inches from the left shoulder to your nose, so if you are at 5 inches and you have a centered head the ball is pretty much in the middle of your stance. I have found that if the ball is too far back of low point I have the tendency of creating a more realistic (but tragic) low point with a bending left wrist...the kiss of death! I have developed a rule with regards to ball position. I do not place the ball further back than what is required for a realistic length of divot. For example placing the ball way back in your stance, in reality up plane, say 10 inches back of low point suggests a divot similar in length! Not all clubs are designed to excavate! So, I have found my straightaway ball postion for example with a lob wedge exactly off the tip of my nose, 6 inches up plane from lowpoint. This is still a work in progress and is most frustrating because if your ball postion is off then your geometry is going to be off, neccessitating fancy corrective hinge action (angled to vertical usually!) If you are popping them up you are catching it too high on the club that has a lowered center of gravity, so move it down plane, but be sure to go down and out like before! Knowing full well that I will not take a proper divot I still hit down on my driver... heck I hit down on EVERYTHING! The thrust is still down for a grass as well as an air divot. So keep the good mechanic (down) and perhaps improve your geometry a bit (ball postion.)
Thanks again for your thoughtful reply...I'm pretty sure you just nailed the solution..Thinking it over more clearly I do place the ball further back (at least a ball) for slightly uphill and downhill shots...This is probably exactly why I haven't seen the pop up on the flat range...I'll also find out the best solution for me when the geometery is off and I tend to naturally put it back in the stance when I have a funky lie..
Also I like your rule about the reasonable divot length and will experiment with that as well through the bag..I might not even have to hit a shot to fix this problem now that I've seen the most likely solution..Maybe the best lesson ever for me! and I've been playing for over 30 years...Thanks..
Also, understanding golf methodologies and short game are my thing..If I can help you in any way just give me a jingle..
I hope that you sort it out. Thanks for the offer. I am curious to know what you mean by golfing methodologies? Is that reference to knowledge about different teaching styles etc.?
I've had lessons from Led, Ballard, Gary Smith, Paul Moran, Sorrell, Robert Baker to name a few popular ones ...To me Ballard, Sorrell, "SliceFixer", and TGM are all different methods to get the job done...One method says your head moves 18 inches to left and is a fault if your head fixates at any point..And another says your head must remain fixed throughout most of the swing...I see a style difference as hitting versus swinging in TGM...Whether hitting or swinging is your style, you must keep your head fixed/FLV or the machine won't work too well..
I've had lessons from Led, Ballard, Gary Smith, Paul Moran, Sorrell, Robert Baker to name a few popular ones ...To me Ballard, Sorrell, "SliceFixer", and TGM are all different methods to get the job done...One method says your head moves 18 inches to left and is a fault if your head fixates at any point..And another says your head must remain fixed throughout most of the swing...I see a style difference as hitting versus swinging in TGM...Whether hitting or swinging is your style, you must keep your head fixed/FLV or the machine won't work too well..
I understand that Homer wrote, "stationary" but Homer himself did not have a stationary head in his swing ttp://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery/images/mm-ms.gif. Why?
I understand that Homer wrote, "stationary" but Homer himself did not have a stationary head in his swing ttp://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery/images/mm-ms.gif. Why?
Bad camara work, lack of flexibility, emphasing a point, using 10-13-A Standard Shoulder Turn without adaquate Waist Bend from the hips sockets.
Take that! Is is possible to keep the head perfectly stationary? I think not, but that is the ideal, and I do not believe you have to have zero deviation...but less is best. The steadier my head is the better I strike it. It is a testment to innate balance of tour players whose heads resemble bouyeys on a choppy sea! I not this particular topic is well worn but...no but...just wanted to post!
...To me Ballard, Sorrell, "SliceFixer", and TGM are all different methods to get the job done...One method says your head moves 18 inches to left and is a fault if your head fixates at any point..And another says your head must remain fixed throughout most of the swing...I see a style difference as hitting versus swinging in TGM...Whether hitting or swinging is your style, you must keep your head fixed/FLV or the machine won't work too well..
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