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Old 10-25-2011, 05:07 AM
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A question if I may please,While I was practicing my chipping today,all went well ,but the question I have today regarding "chipping action",how much emphasis should one put on PP#2,now normally I dont even give PPs too much notice when I chip,really just let club drop using gravity,hinge or whatever I deem necessary at the time,thought PPs would occur naturally,but today whilst focusing on #2pp At what point is there overuse of that pp if in fact there is such a thing as over using it,it really does tend to sling the clubhead down to lowpoint very solidly...Thanks in advance BM
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:48 AM
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A question if I may please,While I was practicing my chipping today,all went well ,but the question I have today regarding "chipping action",how much emphasis should one put on PP#2,now normally I dont even give PPs too much notice when I chip,really just let club drop using gravity,hinge or whatever I deem necessary at the time,thought PPs would occur naturally,but today whilst focusing on #2pp At what point is there overuse of that pp if in fact there is such a thing as over using it,it really does tend to sling the clubhead down to lowpoint very solidly...Thanks in advance BM
No right or wrong, but for me, when chipping or doing basic motion, it's all about PP #3. I start thinking more about the #2 PP when I move into pitching, or acquired motion when I feel the need to ad PA #2 for a little more zip. I like to keep things as simple as possible, and 1 PA - PP is all I really try to monitor when chipping, and I feel #3 is key. I add #1 when I feel the need to work on my extensor action...
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:50 AM
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I should add I am a devout hitter, especially in the short game... Your mileage may vary.
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Old 10-25-2011, 02:12 PM
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Over emphasis on pp # 2 results in the front edge of the club digging a little too much for me and applies more power than I typically want on chip shots. Like Kevin, I focus on #3 and #1. I also insure proper use of flying wedges by setting my right forearm on plane immediately, and then setting up around that.
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:31 PM
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Over emphasis on pp # 2 results in the front edge of the club digging a little too much for me and applies more power than I typically want on chip shots. Like Kevin, I focus on #3 and #1. I also insure proper use of flying wedges by setting my right forearm on plane immediately, and then setting up around that.
Hi Dodger. That last sentence changed my entire idea of the golf swing. I hadn't heard it discussed until coming here, I'm a little slow, but very glad I found that information.

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Old 10-25-2011, 05:28 PM
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Hitting chips is great....be sure you get your elbow set up "punch"...you want to have the hinging match on both sides of the ball...angled back and through...which keeps the face looking at the ball more on the backstroke...one thing about #2 is to have enough "softness" in the left wrist to ALLOW the club to throw out...monitor how much grip pressure you have in the "pinky"... also.... keep in mind that CONTROLLED THROWAWAY can be a procedure if you are aware of it and know how to utilize it....
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:39 AM
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A question if I may please,While I was practicing my chipping today,all went well ,but the question I have today regarding "chipping action",how much emphasis should one put on PP#2,now normally I dont even give PPs too much notice when I chip,really just let club drop using gravity,hinge or whatever I deem necessary at the time,thought PPs would occur naturally,but today whilst focusing on #2pp At what point is there overuse of that pp if in fact there is such a thing as over using it,it really does tend to sling the clubhead down to lowpoint very solidly...Thanks in advance BM
I feel that when using a Pull Minor Basic Stroke. The Left Arm pulling at the #2pp. The Lag sensed at the #3 pp. It not an application of the #2 Power Accumulator, left wrist cock though just a tug at that point of contact, that pressure point.

Is that what you mean? Or are you talking about #2 Power Accumulator , left wrist cock?

Some people define the application of left wrist cock as the dividing line between chipping and pitching.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:37 AM
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Hi OB
it really is just used as a little reminder tug,"hey dont get lazy" type of feel.It enables me to actually reinforce what I want to do....COMPRESS the ball,even on a small chip.
I can see what you are reffering to in regard to power acc,but no,thats not what I meant,but good point O.B.I was seeking answer to just how much PP#2 should I be using in chipping,I think the guys have prolly answered it.....individual feel,and any more than "feel" may be getting into accumulator status.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
I feel that when using a Pull Minor Basic Stroke. The Left Arm pulling at the #2pp. The Lag sensed at the #3 pp. It not an application of the #2 Power Accumulator, left wrist cock though just a tug at that point of contact, that pressure point.

Is that what you mean? Or are you talking about #2 Power Accumulator , left wrist cock?

Some people define the application of left wrist cock as the dividing line between chipping and pitching.
Nice stuff O.B.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:07 PM
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............. whilst focusing on #2pp At what point is there overuse of that pp if in fact there is such a thing as over using it,it really does tend to sling the clubhead down to lowpoint very solidly...BM
Lots to think about here. I have a "kinda" "outside the conventional box" but not outside TGM. If #2 accumulator is looked at as including the bending of the right elbow, which it must or there will be a cocking of the right wrist, and the position of the right elbow. (pitch, punch, push, etc.). We must seek alignments all the way to the feet. Even for these short strokes. Or compensations. Almost everyone does this (compensation) even the pros on short shots. I do this for putting because no (not much) power is needed and an inefficient machine sometimes has better regulation. Anyway, think about the right elbow.

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