[innercityteacher]

I'll give you one thought but many from our members are going to be more important. But this thought will start you thinking. Your post raises about 20 concepts, issues, you know what I mean.

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One of our main goals is to release the Power Package while both Wedges and Club are all On-Plane, the Swing Plane. Hey, lets have everything On-Plane. Right Shoulder, Thrust, etc. So, first, we've learned to maintain a Right Forearm Wedge Plane, and a Left Arm Wedge Plane, but when are they On the Swing Plane? Well the Answer, for the Clubshaft, is Always. But, "Where are they On the Plane so that the Release will also be On-Plane?" That would be when the Right Forearm is On the Swing Plane.

Problem with most People is that they Release before the Right Forearm is On-Plane (this isn't the time or place to talk about Flip Releasing).

Here we go............................

Normally, the Left Arm begins Blasting away from the Chest when the Left Hand passes your right hip. That's deep. Keep in mind that the Left Arm and Shoulder line are no closer than about a 45 degree angle at the Top of the Backstroke. So, it's not really that deep unless your Left Arm is Fully Against your Shoulder Line at the Top of your Backstroke.

#2 Releases about when your Left Hand reaches your Line of Sight to the Ball. Wow, that really seems hard to do. But its all in the pivot to transport the Package but that's when your Right Forearm becomes On-Plane. After you learn to pivot it will seem easy. Now you'll see your Right Forearm On-Plane from this point through to both Arms Straight.

Bad drawings below but ok for the basic idea.

Thank you Daryl for you insights. I agree within my own swing the thought and feel of transporting the power package unchanged until my left hand reaches approximantely my right hip really give me the feeling of that underhand pitch. Secondly, in your statement above you said that when "your Left Hand reaches your Line of Sight to the Ball that's when your Right forearm becomes on plane." I understand what you are saying and really like your drawings. However, and this is where my thoughts are really focused, can one transport the power package as you have discribed above and get the right forearm on the inclined plane before the shaft is parallel to the ground. Hogan's swing always pops into my head when I think about this, particularly the fourth image below. Wouldn't you agree Hogan must release #4 much sooner it order to arrive at his position at image #4? Looking at this video, http://youtu.be/QL_6M_xZvq0




It seems to me that Mr. Hogan's back elbow, when hitting the level of Axis Tilt is on Plane before throwing at the ball/Aim point. Does leading down with the elbow, as the right shoulder slides down plane from the Axis Tilt, a better safeguard to being on plane? Wait a minute, the right shoulder goes back and drops down on plane with the Axis Tilt, but still Hogan seems to really emphasize the elbow going deep!

ICT