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There is less roll to a horizontal hinge than most might think. The easiest check is to go to the horizontal plane.

At any point in the motion from hip to hip, if you raise the club up to the horizontal plane, the toe should be straight up.

the closing motion, relative to the left shoulder hinge pin, is exactly like a closing door, and a closing door has a smooth, steady rate of closing. It may feel like a quick roll with a snap release down on the angled plane, but the hinge motion - from impact to separation - is as smoothly closing as that door.

Part of the advantage of the pivot causing the throw out and roll is that the pivot acts like the rotor that the door closes around - a smooth rate of closing. Not a swivel as hinge action.

Thinking about this some more..........typically, the Hitter's Angled Hinging is a product of his Right Arm Thrust, Zone 2. The Swingers Horizontal a product of CF, Zone 1.

I am a pure hitter now but maybe not in the strictest TGM sense because I don't (at least not yet) adhere to some of the downswing principles described in the book.

I agree with this, I would imagine part of it has to do with the backswing swivel motion, I know mine is extremely limited, I want a no roll feel of the forearms going back with the face shut from P1 to P2 (club parallel position). On the downswing not sure I can even produce a horizontal hinge given how much I fire my right arm, which is also going down and to the left.