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whip 12-08-2011 03:37 AM

have you seen this awful and innacurate jim mclean video about TGM...
 
:BangHead:


this is another video that makes me cringe....really jim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68LP...eature=related

Hey Jim wasn't Pia Nillson the first lady Authorized Instructor of the golfing machine, ANNIKA SORENSTAM'S Instructor??

12 piece bucket 12-08-2011 07:06 AM

Fundamental misunderstanding of what the book is about and what Mr. Kelley's mission was.....don't know what he was told in the 5 hours he spent with Mr. Kelley, but based on listening to well over 81 hours of AI classes....Mr. Kelley WAS NOT about making a recommendation of a "perfect swing". Chapter 10 is a freakin' catalogue......it doesn't tell you how to make the dress....you make your own dress.....In the tapes Homer was PRESSED to make RECOMMENDATIONS ...... he wouldn't do it ..... the students were extremely frustrated...."You don't reccomend ANYTHING do you?".....he wasn't about that. Mr. Kelley gave us a template...Hitting and Swinging...pulling vs pushing...you can't mix 'em....it's that simple....BUT if you want the detail....it's there.....but the choice is yours....he did exactly what McLame is talking about.....tried to figure out WHY something works....but he didn't really recommend any SOMETHING....He gave you a set of fundamentals and a template...the rest is up to you. McLame has a structure...8 SECTION I mean Step Swing....DINGDONG STOLE THAT FROM PHILLY MAC WHO SNAKED IT FROM HOMER......sorry Charlie.

Just one more instructor who builds his empire while standing on the shoulders of Homer Kelley....and then proceeds to take a leak on his head from his lofty perch.....Hey Jimmy....this finger is for you......a cat who capitalizes on dead people.....

12 piece bucket 12-08-2011 07:47 AM

Heck we've been discussing all kinds of freakin' options over here....nobody's sayin' there's a "the way"...maybe just a more efficient way....does not giving a lesson and changing somebody period ASSUME a "model" to some extent? Maybe Jimbo McLame is threatened or just plain incapable of understanding....I wouldn't take a lesson from that dork if it was free across the street. He demonstrated that centered backstroke perfectly....looks like getting your students to execute that motion would be muuuuuuch easier than firing all four barrels manipulated hands swinging that Donald Trump Starter Comb-Over divot on top of his head...

whip 12-08-2011 10:47 AM

Thank you bucket I especially like the Donald trump starter comb over bit LOL.... Hopefully Lynn will chime in with some facts about BGs
Many accomplishments. Everyone should comment on his video why he's wrong.
Everyone wants to make up their own rules. You simply cannot avoid the laws of physics and the relationships of geometry no matter how bad you want to.

Face it Jim YOU ARE THREATENED by 40 years of research, you should be! the information is too good and you can't let your students know the truth else they will never pay you Another cent.

I'm skeptical about his time Spent with homer, could be a flat out lie, if he did spend time with him he would have known what the system was about.

JerryG 12-08-2011 12:15 PM

I do not understand what his motivation is. If one were to just make an effort to incorporate the Imperatives and Essentials they would be better golfers. I hope Jim is not telling people to start swinging with a bent left wrist.

KevCarter 12-08-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 88642)

Just one more instructor who builds his empire while standing on the shoulders of Homer Kelley....and then proceeds to take a leak on his his from his lofty perch.....Hey Jimmy....this finger is for you......a cat who capitalizes on dead people.....

One of the truest posts ever written. He is just one in a line of those wearing white coats thinking all the answers can be found in a test tube rather than real world teaching.

Kevin

MizunoJoe 12-08-2011 02:52 PM

If you listened carefully, he said that there were "many, a lot of guys on tour", influenced by TGM and asked, where are the great ones, the multiple major winners? Apparently, guys like Elkington with only one major, don't count!

Perhaps Jim could show us the list of the greats/multiple major winners who graduated from McLean University? :laughing9

12 piece bucket 12-08-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 88662)
If you listened carefully, he said that there were "many, a lot of guys on tour", influenced by TGM and asked, where are the great ones, the multiple major winners? Apparently, guys like Elkington with only one major, don't count!

Perhaps Jim could show us the list of the greats/multiple major winners who graduated from McLean University? :laughing9

True...Homer has certainly helped his BOTTOM LINE.....

golfguru 12-08-2011 08:14 PM

Ignorance is bliss for most teachers.

JM though is a marketing smart man and uses this ignorance to drive his bottom line. That some of us see right through the jibes and partial truths shows we are smarter than the herd.

The World is Flat was a good way to eat and not get burned only a few hundred years ago. JM keeps laying it out like people want to hear it.

All those players he mentions all have the impact zone covered quite nicely thanks in a motion we get. He may have been to Homers house but it would appear that he did not have the patience to incubate what he may have learned from the trip.

BerntR 12-09-2011 10:29 AM

He doesn't attack the book and HK's work as far as I can see. He attacks some of those who uses TGM as basis for their teaching.

He may be right that there are TGM-based teachers who are too method oriented and where a "One Right Way" thinking gets in the way of improving the student from time to time. But I you will find that in all camps. The criticism is in any case uncalled for.


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