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brianmontgomery2000 09-24-2010 11:07 PM

Angled Hinge = Fade?
 
Does the angled hinge of the hitter HAVE to lead to a fade? It seems to me that angled hinge still has the club face closing through the ball and coming from the inside/down the plane.

Am I missing something? I feel the "no roll" and am hitting draws -- haven't really hit a fade all summer. Occasional straight push, but nothing is going to the right by curving there...

gmbtempe 09-24-2010 11:23 PM

The hinge does not dictate ball flight, you can hit a hook with a vertical hinge. Path of the club, and the club face relation to that path dictates curve. Maybe it curves less to the left with angled hinge but its not going to create a fade if the physics dictate a hook.

footwedge 09-25-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brianmontgomery2000 (Post 76340)
Does the angled hinge of the hitter HAVE to lead to a fade? It seems to me that angled hinge still has the club face closing through the ball and coming from the inside/down the plane.

Am I missing something? I feel the "no roll" and am hitting draws -- haven't really hit a fade all summer. Occasional straight push, but nothing is going to the right by curving there...


D-plane and correct ball flight laws.

brianmontgomery2000 09-25-2010 09:41 PM

That's what I was thinking.

But why do people (at least somewhere on the forum here) say that hitters and specifically angled hinging tend to lead to fades?

gmbtempe 09-26-2010 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brianmontgomery2000 (Post 76376)
That's what I was thinking.

But why do people (at least somewhere on the forum here) say that hitters and specifically angled hinging tend to lead to fades?

Based on the newest information about ball flight laws I dont see he how it could, would love to hear a more seasoned opinion on mine on your question.

tball88 09-26-2010 01:01 PM

I agree that face is going to dictate initial direction, however, since an angled hinge has more of a no roll feel, the face will have a tendency to be more open at seperation than a horizontal hinge, which has a more rapidly closing clubface. You can adjust for this, by setting up with a more closed clubface at setup.

However, no matter how you swing the face and it's relation to path will dictate ball flight.

O.B.Left 09-29-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianmontgomery2000 (Post 76340)
Does the angled hinge of the hitter HAVE to lead to a fade? It seems to me that angled hinge still has the club face closing through the ball and coming from the inside/down the plane.

Am I missing something? I feel the "no roll" and am hitting draws -- haven't really hit a fade all summer. Occasional straight push, but nothing is going to the right by curving there...


Does it "have" to? Id say no. The tendency Ive noticed , as a long time drawer of the ball, is a push mainly but it can fall off to the right, fade too. A very consistent thing as my old draw could "super size" itself on occasion. The correction for this is a slightly closed club face at Fix.......more closed for longer clubs.

Does any one know if Trackman takes into account Hinge Action? It should Id imagine.............hmmmmmm. There is a rate of closing to the face which influences the geometry or physics of impact. No question about it to my mind. If you do some work in Acquired Motion or Basic even, with different Hinge Actions you can see it , easily. The pros employ Hinge Actions all the time.........probably without knowing what it is or what the associated Basic Plane is in our lexicon.

Who's Trackman savy around here? I've been meaning to make of study of it. I really like the idea of it.


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