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hg 05-24-2009 07:14 PM

In Homer's Own Words
 
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Here's a classic sequence previously posted of Bobby Clampett with commentary by Mr. Homer Kelley...it's still a good one...enjoy:)

Daryl 05-24-2009 08:52 PM

Who wrote the caption commentary and who wrote the below picture commentary? The caption commentary was very kind.

I hardly call that a TGM swing. Not even close.

That not unusual. Todays game is Power-the-drive and short game magic. Ya see a lot of tgm IN THE SHORT GAME. None in the Long.

KevCarter 05-24-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 64295)
Who wrote the caption commentary and who wrote the below picture commentary? The caption commentary was very kind.

I hardly call that a TGM swing. Not even close.

That not unusual. Todays game is Power-the-drive and short game magic. Ya see a lot of tgm IN THE SHORT GAME. None in the Long.

Daryl,

With all due respect Sir, that really surprises me.

At that time Bobby Clampett was really the poster boy for TGM. As a student of Ben Doyle, do you think some of Mr. Kelley's teachings were being misunderstood, or do you feel Mr. Doyle was teaching his own theories rather than directly from the book? What do you feel constitutes a TGM swing?

Thanks,
Kevin

Daryl 05-24-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 64296)
At that time Bobby Clampett was really the poster boy for TGM.

False Advertising.:eyes:

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As a student of Ben Doyle, do you think some of Mr. Kelley's teachings were being misunderstood?
Either Misunderstood, or Ignored. :confused1

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Do you feel Mr. Doyle was teaching his own theories rather than directly from the book?
Either he was teaching his own theory, or he misunderstood, or he ignored or maybe Bobby Clampett was learning his own theory despite what he was taught. :confused1

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What do you feel constitutes a TGM swing?
Without the "Right Forearm Take-Away", "Magic of the Right Forearm" and "Extensor Action" and the "Right Forearm Flying Wedge", it's not a TGM Swing and almost none of the 24 components or their Variations apply or have the same meaning. People need to understand that TGM is a Method, not simply a Dictionary of Terms.

Bobby Clampetts Swing doesn't use any one of those Concepts. Not One. If he gets the Forearm on plane at all, it's only at impact.

Look; whoever did the analysis next to and below the pictures, knew that Bobby Clampett lost the Hands Controlled Pivot (Alignment Golf) at Start-up. He never recovered. Even I can tell that he doesn't use any of the Big Four. If you knew (I mean, when you learn,completely, and you will) the Big Four, you would know that too.

The Guy closest to a TGM swing was Ben Hogan. And even BH used a Shoulder Turn Take-away. Closest does not mean he was TGM.

KevCarter 05-24-2009 10:15 PM

Thank you Daryl. I always appreciate your insight!

:salut:

Kevin

hg 05-24-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 64295)
Who wrote the caption commentary and who wrote the below picture commentary? The caption commentary was very kind.

I hardly call that a TGM swing. Not even close.

That not unusual. Todays game is Power-the-drive and short game magic. Ya see a lot of tgm IN THE SHORT GAME. None in the Long.


I believe the text below the pictures are Mr. Kelley's own words.

O.B.Left 05-25-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hg (Post 64301)
I believe the text below the pictures are Mr. Kelley's own words.

Yup. Homers original text below. The magazines version above. The Homer text provided by Yoda, I believe. An insight into the workings of the editorial department at the magazine.

Yoda 05-25-2009 07:43 AM

Right On Both Counts
 
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 64304)
Yup. Homers original text below. The magazines version above. The Homer text provided by Yoda, I believe.

As Homer would say: "Kee-rect!"

:)

drewitgolf 05-25-2009 08:25 AM

Paging Daryl
 
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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 64299)

Without the "Right Forearm Take-Away", "Magic of the Right Forearm" and "Extensor Action" and the "Right Forearm Flying Wedge", it's not a TGM Swing and almost none of the 24 components or their Variations apply or have the same meaning. People need to understand that TGM is a Method, not simply a Dictionary of Terms.

Even I can tell that he doesn't use any of the Big Four. If you knew (I mean, when you learn,completely, and you will) the Big Four, you would know that too.


Not a TGM Swing??? There is NO TGM Swing.

People need to understand that TGM is a Method??? Are you saying a "THE Way"?

The Big Four??? I didn't see any of those listed as Imperatives or Essentials. I am not saying that your "Big Four" are not important, but it appears you trying to re-write the book?

KevCarter 05-25-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 64311)
Not a TGM Swing??? There is NO TGM Swing.

People need to understand that TGM is a Method??? Are you saying a "THE Way"?

The Big Four??? I didn't see any of those listed as Imperatives or Essentials. I am not saying that your "Big Four" are not important, but it appears you trying to re-write the book?

Drew,

I know I'm just a rookie, but I look at TGM as THE fundamentals to use while building ANY swing. I think all great methods need to be based upon TGM fundamentals...

Kevin


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