Brian Gay v/s Me
 

Here is the deal, I have been trying to get TGM correct for me as a learning tool. I choose to model after Brian Gay and when I swing the club I feel as if I am doing everything he does. I had a tournament this weekend and choose to play with my old swing, but I had been working on the TGM model so much my old swing was rusty, so I switched to TGM after about 11 holes. Now here is my questions;

When the ball goes where I want it to go, I am usaly air mailing the green. I have not lost any distance with the driver, but gained in the irons?

My bad shots are mostly off the tee box, a slight pull, or a long hook?

The irons are usaly just a little left of target and I feel most off shots with the irons have to do with my set up?

I am doing every thing like Brian Gay except I have choose not to bend my irons to get the arms in line with the shaft at address. Right now my irons are flat of standard a few degrees?

When I practiced before the round today I tryied to memic Brian Gay on the video, as my swing. Here is what I am trying to do if I broke it down.

1.) Aim club at target, while half stepped into the setup.

2.)Forward press the butt of the shaft with right hand and take full stance. then putt left hand on.

3.) Right elbow slightly crimped and weight setup on left side.

4.) grip pressure is 70 in right 30 in left.

5.) Right hand takes the hands and club to top until hips want to turn from no more flexability.

6.) Down swing I try to bring the right hand back to the aiming point and feel as if I am pushing my butt back which is just both of the legs straiting. this helps me keep the right hip back as long as possible.

7.) After hands reach aiming point and ball is compressed the hands release the right shoulder so to continue left and up the plane.

I feel like I am excerting all my energy and not fluid. I am trying to hit the golf ball too hard and power it to were I want it to go. I also have no idea if it is going to fade or draw, I just hope it does what I want it too.

I have one more round left Sunday, so a response tonight would be nice, if anyone wants to chime in....? I will check back in 30mins or so its Saturday May 2nd, 2009 @ 7:43pm Texas time

Thanks,
BurleyGolf-

Burely, :hello2:

I wish I could help. So, put the :read: book away. Decide how to play the hole, play within yourself, be conscious of your setup, narrow your swing thoughts. Then when you're on the Green, do the same. Do it 18 times.

Now, go play Competitive Golf. :violent:

Daryl :occasion:

You picked a nice swing to model yours after, Burley.

The only comment Id make is that 70 percent right , 30 left in terms of grip pressure seems very light in the left hand to me. You being from Texas probably remember Hogan talking about shots going left not because the right hand is too strong but because the left is too weak, grip pressure wise. Id say to grip that sucker with the left hand and the right hand. Tight grip pressure but relaxed wrists. The Hands are just clamps.

Somewhere in the book, Mr Kelley says something like "if its going left check your pivot , if its going right check your right arm extension". Ive probably completely mashed this quote, cant find it right now.

A Model Is A Model
 

That's a big "except", Burley. Either you model . . . or you don't.

:)

For a lack of a better term, it was 'tons easier' to start tracing the right forearm for me when I got the right forearm on plane at address. And don't worry, work on it enough and it will feel downright odd when you don't have the right forearm on plane at address.

I'm still waiting for a golfer to insure their right forearm with Lloyds of London :)




3JACK

Richie3Jack,

You and Ted have done a wonderful job with your set up and swing...

I want to get set up with my right forearm on plane. I have always held my hands very low. I thought I was getting it until I took some video. I'm not even close!

Would you please share some ideas of how you got there? Mirror work, Ted putting you there??? Any special thoughts or "feels?"

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Kevin

Impact fix! That's how high your hands need to be for your right forearm to be on plane. If your right arm is straight or virtually straight at setup with low hands, you'll have to get some bend in there like Richie3Jack.

Thanks BamBam,

I have saved the pic of Richie at setup, and I'm going to look at it first thing EVERY morning, and work my tail off until I get there! :salut:

Kevin

Kevin,

Here's a pic of my old address position.



Ted & I worked on the right forearm on plane at address in our 2nd lesson together (we've only had 4 lessons so far). Ted originally put me in the position and then I had to feel it. The feel I sort of use is that I just bend the right elbow at address. In fact, it pretty much feels like I'm bending the right elbow 'into my right hip joint.'

I had some problems with setting my hands high and then getting the right forearm on plane at address. It was getting my left shoulder 'up high' at address, so Ted corrected that. So basically I 'leave the left arm hanging' at address and then 'bend the right elbow into my right hip' and I'm good to go.

Now, we're getting me more into right forearm tracing. Since getting the right forearm on plane is feeling natural to me now, I now try to feel like that #3 PP is holding a laser pointer or a flashlight and has to trace the plane line.

Lastly, I record my swing quite a bit. Probably every other practice session. I'm not expecting to hit it like Ben Hogan, but I'm just constantly checking that I'm doing what we went over with on our last lesson or I'm headed in the right direction.





3JACK

It'll feel a little strange at first, but it's really a very natural position of the arms. As Richie said, once you get it, anything else will feel odd.