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EdZ 03-23-2009 04:19 PM

10-2-D Swinging pattern
 
I'm curious if anyone has the 3rd edition, of what the patterns using 10-2-D are?

I've had a bit of a layoff from range time and have been experimenting indoors on different pattern options. Mainly, this stems from my grip choice, which despite a lot of experimentation on other patterns, most naturally falls to a 10-2-D, interlocking grip. This due to how my left hand naturally hangs at my side - a 'strong' position in my case.

Similar to what Doyle's grip appears to be.

From that grip, I've worked mainly on a swinging pattern, which also tends to fit my natural motion.

Given the requirements of a horizontal hinge, this leads to a 'cupped' left wrist at the top/end, from which I can release fully, for a draw, or basically 'feel' an angled hinge - but have a horizontal hinge of the clubface - for a straight shot.

I can really feel that the pivot, and its throw out action, is all that is needed to square up, and can put as much or as little force as I want into the shot with predictable accuracy.

I got back out and hit some shots today with this pattern and found it quite easy to repeat, and very accurate.

All of this is to say, that for those that have been trying to conform to the standard 10-2-B "back of the left hand faces the target" and still struggle with an open face at impact - check how your left hand hangs down at your side - and give 10-2-D a try.

drewitgolf 03-23-2009 04:33 PM

Make a Left Hand Turn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 62133)
I'm curious if anyone has the 3rd edition, of what the patterns using 10-2-D are?

12-2, Two Accumulator (1/2) Pivot Stroke with Drive Loading uses a 10-2-D.

EdZ 03-23-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 62134)
12-2, Two Accumulator (1/2) Pivot Stroke with Drive Loading uses a 10-2-D.

I know it is unlikely, but are there any 3 accumulator using 1/2/4? That is what the pattern I was testing today felt like for a straight shot, the draw was near 4-barrel with the added #3 and cupped position, although hard to say based on feels alone.

Certainly the push-pull of a 1 vs 4 is subject to some gray areas when it comes to feel alone. I'll have to try to get it on video at some point.

Thanks Drewit - EdZ

O.B.Left 03-23-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 62134)
12-2, Two Accumulator (1/2) Pivot Stroke with Drive Loading uses a 10-2-D.



I dont have the 3rd (I'm trying with no luck so far) but I'm surprised by this. Did Mr Kelley not differentiate hitting and swinging as we know it, in the earlier versions?

Regards
OB

Delaware Golf 03-25-2009 07:33 AM

Hitting and Swinging in the 1st Edition???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 62138)
I dont have the 3rd (I'm trying with no luck so far) but I'm surprised by this. Did Mr Kelley not differentiate hitting and swinging as we know it, in the earlier versions?

Regards
OB


Good question about hitting and swinging in the earlier versions....did Homer seperate hitting and swinging from the 1st Edition??? My guess is yes (with section 1-F at the very least).

DG

bioengine 07-30-2009 12:45 PM

swing patterns
 
perfect pattern
6-M-1, 4 barrel and hitting driving your right arm start of downswing all the way to impact.

Apply physics conservation of momentum.
Load and firing of the muscles.

A bullet proof golfing and easy to train someone to do as well

EdZ 07-30-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bioengine (Post 66351)
perfect pattern
6-M-1, 4 barrel and hitting driving your right arm start of downswing all the way to impact.

Apply physics conservation of momentum.
Load and firing of the muscles.

A bullet proof golfing and easy to train someone to do as well

The crux of the pattern is letting your left hand grip position be as natural as possible, taking your grip at impact fix.

Check the flying wedges, and apply the pivot's power.

Agreed it is an easy pattern to teach - because the alignments are already set.

Too many people forget how important checking impact fix is, or don't understand where impact really is. You must have been reading my mind, as I just got back from the range working on this pattern.

bioengine 07-31-2009 01:15 AM

Edz,
This the problem you can't go to the practice fairway and try and physically achieve this.
The body needs to be trained first how to create conservation of momentum and fire the body segments in the correct order. On top of this, you need to train your body how to load and fire your muscles which drives conservation of momentum.
6-M-1 has to be trained not physically applied. To achieve 6-M-1 you need to apply neuromechanics training.

12 piece bucket 08-02-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bioengine (Post 66378)
Edz,
This the problem you can't go to the practice fairway and try and physically achieve this.
The body needs to be trained first how to create conservation of momentum and fire the body segments in the correct order. On top of this, you need to train your body how to load and fire your muscles which drives conservation of momentum.
6-M-1 has to be trained not physically applied. To achieve 6-M-1 you need to apply neuromechanics training.

Come on man . . . don't be a tease . . . talk to us.

no_mind_golfer 08-04-2009 08:26 PM

Same brown stuff different day
 
malapropos buzz words designed to lure unsuspecting golfer into purchasing (most likey) worthless $10 videos and over-priced lessons. Nothing new here

PS COAM does not and will never apply... The golf swing is a gestalt where in NOTHING is conserved.


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