Hitters grip thoughts?
 

Hello again, it seems I'm keeping this section of the boards up by myself! :eyes:

I'm having grip issues after switching to hitting and I wanted to know what some of you thought about my current grip and what I adapted to.

The top picture was my impact fix setup. It has a very, very strong right hand and a very large forward press.

The bottom picture is what I adapted to which still is impact fix but has a much more neutral right hand and less forward press.

So basically I'm wondering is the bottom an improvement? Is that where I need to be? I feel less pressure on the left thumb but I feel like the thumb is enveloped giving more overall pressure.

Thoughts?

After watching some Brian Gay videos on swing vision I'm picking up a couple of things.

He prefers to start from impact fix which I also like.

The shaft lean traces the left arm straight upwards and the right forearm bend perfectly.

I think my impact fix setup mimics that but it might be too extreme compared to his.

His right hand though its tough to see what it is doing. It looks similar to the bottom picture for me but I can't be sure.

I'm certainly no expert, but the right hand in both pix looks pretty Moe Norman like. Are you sure you don't have too much palm in the RH grip?

If you're working through the basic motion curriculum then per 12-5-0 6. "The Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B) is mandatory throughout". Obviously you have options, so whatever suits you I guess. Ideally you want the pressure through the pressure points behind the shaft.

Yes, agreed and you do have options, several trillion of em.

Yoda often employs a 10-2-D grip when hitting. Its about the only way you can tell he's hitting unless you're standing right beside him and can hear the knock out punch he is giving it with his actively extending right arm.

When he's hitting he's more Ali than Frazer. Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee. Still lots of drag and lag. Thats the way he does it anyways.

But start in Chapter 12. It is the only place to start your journey.

Both hands look a touch too much in the palms, but your overall alignments are solid, certainly workable.

For the left hand, get the grip up under the heel pad (use Hogan's 5 lessons drill where you hold the club only with the heel pad and index finger as a check).

For the right, as a hitter you can work with what you have now, but you'll find more feel if you use a 'trigger' finger with the right index and have the club a bit less in the palm, more in the fingers - check that your right wrist is 'level' at impact fix.

I would try the following

Left hand heel pad on top of grip: Trigger finger with right index finger: 10-8-B special fix.

Hot damn its amazing the feel difference between having the shaft in your palm vs. on the pad of your hand.

It COMPLETELY changes the angle.

Its too late for me to try anything today but that moving the club to the pad sure does seem to help.

I have a visit with Rob Noel tomorrow and I guess we'll see how it goes.

A Tale of Two Grips
 

Component #2 -- Grip Type -- principally differentiates (1) the relationship of each Hand to the Inclined Plane; (2) the location of the #3 Pressure Point (first joint of the RH index finger); and (3) the number of Wrist Actions (Perpendicular or Horizontal or both) induced during the Stroke in either or both Hands.

The Strong Double Action Grip (10-2-D) mandates a Turned Left Hand and a Vertical Right Hand; a Pressure Point that is directly 'aft' (or 'behind') the Shaft, i.e., neither 'on top' or 'under' it; and a Double Action, i.e., Cocking the Turned Left Wrist (a Perpendicular Motion) causes the Vertical Right Wrist to Bend (a Horizontal Motion). In TGM shorthand, this is a T/V/A grip (Left Hand Turned / Right Hand Vertical / Pressure Point Aft).

In contrast, Grantc79's Grip features a Left Hand that is Turned; a Right Hand that also is Turned (not Vertical); and a #3 Pressure Point that is under the Shaft (not aft). In this configuration, his Turned Left Wrist Cock also Cocks (but does not Bend) his Turned Right Wrist (Perpendicular Motion only and therefore a Single Action). This Grip is labeled Strong Single Action Underhand (10-2-F) and is described in TGM shorthand as T/T/U (Turned Left Hand / Turned Right Hand / Pressure Point Under).

As an aside, when I do employ the 10-2-D Variation, it is almost always in conformance with the Two Accumulator Pivot Stroke Pattern (12-2) of the Third Edition. [Note: Any active Right Shoulder participation makes this a Three Accumulator Pattern.] My intention with this Pattern is to reinforce the Feel of "unrelenting Thrust during Release and Impact" (Active Right Arm Participation) and with a "right palm driven squarely at the Ball (Angled Hinge Action) -- no separate Rolling action".

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Thanks for all the input guys.

Yoda your information is highly technical and i don't quite get all of it yet but I am constantly digging into the yellow book now adays and trying to learn it :)

Moving the shaft from the palm to the pad really helped and now I feel like I can get that grip a lot more comfortable.


As an aside Yoda when you are going to teach GSEB 1 and 2 near Rob so I can come get certified?:eyes: