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O.B.Left 01-18-2009 05:33 PM

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Can you tell us why there are no face balanced, center shafted irons or woods. Is there a benefit to the heel shafted clubs? If so what is it?

Even the pod driver does not align shaft to sweetspot.

Regards
OB



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KevCarter 01-18-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 60296)
golfgnome

Can you tell us why there are no face balanced, center shafted irons or woods. Is there a benefit to the heel shafted clubs? If so what is it?

Even the pod driver does not align shaft to sweetspot.

Regards
OB



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APPENDIX II - DESIGN OF CLUBS

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Except for putters, all of the heel portion of the club must lie within 0.625 inches (15.88 mm) of the plane containing the axis of the straight part of the shaft and the intended (horizontal) line of play (see Fig. IV).

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Kevin

O.B.Left 01-18-2009 05:55 PM

Thanks Kev


Wondering if there would be any benefit to it anyways.

OB

neil 01-20-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 60298)
Thanks Kev


Wondering if there would be any benefit to it anyways.

OB

They figured that out 600 years ago!:laughing9

Dariusz J. 01-20-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by neil (Post 60447)
They figured that out 600 years ago!:laughing9

What they could figure 600 years ago could be that it was the easiest to make the club look like it looks now, i.e. that is not center-shafted...and not because it was mechanically the best tool to play golf.

Cheers

O.B.Left 01-21-2009 12:17 AM

For those just happening upon this thread, it was actually moved here from another thread and so some previous posts are missing.

It was originally about whether there are forces other than the rotation of the left forearm at play in the closing of the clubface through the ball. I argued the yes position, CF for instance.

The question of center shafted irons and their characteristics became a point of contention and so here we are.

Homer is on record is stating that the longer nosed clubs of the 1930's were a delight to hit as CF had more of an effect and therefor disruption was less likely.

I personally think that longer the clubface the slower the rate of closing. Cant imagine center shafted, face balanced irons as being easier to hit.


OB

Dariusz J. 01-21-2009 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 60450)
I personally think that longer the clubface the slower the rate of closing. Cant imagine center shafted, face balanced irons as being easier to hit.


OB


OB, and I can imagine it. Not that I would claim it for sure, but can easily imagine that the situation when the shaft supports the clubface MOI center could create less problems for a golfer.
The problem is another, IMO - loft :) The bigger the loft is the more negative offset would have to be.

Cheers

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Daryl 04-21-2009 08:22 PM

Off the cuff:

If you had a center Shafted-on-the-sweetspot Golfclub what would result?

No Sequenced Release because the sweetspot and Clubshaft cannot lie against the same plane during the downswing and release. There’s no need for a sequenced release anyway with this kind of club.

No straightaway ball flight. There would be no Hookface which is designed to divert the ball from the circular path of the Clubhead into a Straight down the Target Line direction. That might be able to be compensated for but at a huge cost in Compression Leakage.

The Clubshaft would need to be Stiff like a baseball bat to compensate for off-centered strikes
*No pre-stressed Clubshaft
*The shaft is so stiff, that it’ll have a bandage dispenser build into it.

The Sweetspot is a Tiny Point in Space. The Club would need sufficient weight at the back of the club to move the sweetspot behind the Shaft.
*A Nine Iron would be about a 25 degree Loft
*Without a fair amount of loft spread between clubs, a Wedge would need to be 24” long and your Driver 60” to get similar distances to what you have now.


Maybe, maybe not.....:)

O.B.Left 04-21-2009 11:52 PM

Hey Daryl

I remember you telling me of a time when you thought you might be the only person in the world reading TGM. Well you've got lots of reading buddies now!

I just noticed that tonight at 10:28, the day after Brian Gays victory, the forum doubled its previous high of on line viewers. Fantastic.



OB


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