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O.B.Left 12-02-2008 12:11 PM

Revealed: Moe's thoughts on performing well
 
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Although most of his thoughts relate to his mental approach, perhaps due to his tremendous insecurity, its interesting to note that his first bullet relates to what we would term extensor action.

There are many other TGM like thoughts to my eye.

And "swing arms up as body turns away" reminds me of the MacDonald drill.

O.B.

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kamandi 02-24-2010 10:41 AM

I know this is an old thread, but nice list! Thanks for sharing. :)

I especially like ... "Believing in your 'Mental Image' will make you a master."

I've adopted something like this recently, and it's worked wonders.

I'm analytical by nature, so I sometimes over-think/over-set-up a shot and build tension. Now, I just see myself making a nice looking swing ... something that would look good if someone takes a picture. I focus on looking good, and I don't care if I chunk, skull, slice, or hook the ball.

Vain? --- yes, but surprisingly effective. :D

innercityteacher 03-23-2010 09:58 PM

When we keep our hands level and on plane...
 
Are we vindicating Moe Norman albiet in a more informed way?
I just cannot get over how cool of a golfer he was. :laughing9

Do you ever think, OB or anyone, we will ever see a golfer do better than Tiger or Byron Nelson or Moe in terms of winning so many tournaments in a row or just so many?

If I can progress so much with TGM given my limiations, couldn't one of our students or kids just go off on the universe? Mad skills and mad fact-based instruction = crazy great schievement!

Patrick :golf:



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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 58380)
Although most of his thoughts relate to his mental approach, perhaps due to his tremendous insecurity, its interesting to note that his first bullet relates to what we would term extensor action.

There are many other TGM like thoughts to my eye.

And "swing arms up as body turns away" reminds me of the MacDonald drill.

O.B.

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O.B.Left 03-23-2010 10:46 PM

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Are we vindicating Moe Norman albiet in a more informed way?
I just cannot get over how cool of a golfer he was. :laughing9

Do you ever think, OB or anyone, we will ever see a golfer do better than Tiger or Byron Nelson or Moe in terms of winning so many tournaments in a row or just so many?

If I can progress so much with TGM given my limiations, couldn't one of our students or kids just go off on the universe? Mad skills and mad fact-based instruction = crazy great schievement!

Patrick :golf:


Im glad things are working so well for you Patrick. Thats great.

When I was a kid they said there'd never be another Bobby Orr, now its like "who was Bobby Orr". Me, I remember him well. Went to his hockey school. The bar keeps getting raised, not by us but by the Bobby Orrs and Tiger Woods of the world. They attract better young athletes to their respective games too. Everything is possible I suppose but Mr Nelson's 11 victories in a row.......that will be a tough one to surpass given how deep the fields are these days.

Id say Byron Nelson was a golfing machine! Wouldnt be too hard to catalogue his complementary component variations I dont think. Lagging Takeaway , Double Anchor , Top, Drag Loading or whatever. Homer Kelley new his motion very well, Id imagine. His components and their respective relationships, like Misters Hogan, Snead and others were formative in Homers process of identification. Their swing DNA, their "Machinations" if you will live on today in the Golfing Machines text. I cant separate Drag Loading and 6-M-1 from Hogan for instance. Especially after I heard that Homer had in this regard remarked something to the effect of : "Now, Hogan ........ the ideal........".

Homer didnt invent this stuff, he just identified it. Master golfers have been Golfing Machine like, for ever. The system is based on universal laws of geometry and physics after all. Alignments, Relationships. Like a wall ideally stands at 90 degrees to the floor so does the RFFW to the LAFW etc etc etc.

Below is Jim Barnes, turn of the century golf champion. Nice alignments , eh? "Who was Jim Barnes ?" You, ask. Ah your great grand dad would smack you, and say "There'll never be another one like him, lad"

By the way I wouldnt be surprised if Homer had Jim Barnes' book too. This illustration , circa 1926, is in a section entitled "Follow Through". Disregard his covering of the plane line seen here, it would take until 1969 before someone would decipher the correct geometry of that bit of business. It took Homer 15 years to discover that he needed to stop reading the text and just look at the pictures.


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Sean1 03-24-2010 10:23 AM

Thanks for sharing, OB. I wonder how much of fear has to do with "bad" golf? It's almost as if everything else is a subset of fear and that if we can master fear we can "master" golf.

However, could fear be seen as a subset of something else? A poor self image? Wanting approval? Etc.? Why do many of us view a poor shot as a reflection on us as a person instead of just a golf shot?

Golf just IS.

Is it what we bring to golf that makes it good, bad, or indifferent?

GPStyles 03-24-2010 02:12 PM

I've seen this posted elsewhere but have only given it a cursory look before.

Today I read it and immediately decided it needed saving and printing to go into the bag.

There are a couple of things I really want to draw attention to and give my thoughts on.

1) Learn to "have to" into "want to"
2) You are what you "Think you are"
3) Winners see what they want, Losers see what they don't want
4) Always be in a good frame of mind
5) Believing in your mental image will make you a master
6) Be in charge of your thinking

The first thing I would say is that quite a few 'sports psychologists' are making a pretty good living off these directions!

I think all of the listed ones above are simple but brilliant. One of my key goals this year is to "appear as a champion". By this I mean I am going to update my wardrobe so that I never stand on the first tee looking anything other than a champion golfer. I don't mean I will be buying Poulter's baby pink tartan trousers and pink FJ icons but I do mean that my clothes will match and compliment and they will be ironed and spotless. This may seem basic but I could definitely be accused in the past of wearing 'comfortable old trousers' that looked like they'd been my friends for manys a year! The same with my dryjoys - they are a good pair of shoes but more often than not they are a grimy brown from the muck on my course.

innercityteacher 03-25-2010 10:25 AM

My wifey just hemmed my rain pants.
 
:laughing9


And...she can cook!!!! Is this a great country or what? Now, if we could just get a certain Potus to retire and be a university president...and then some tax breaks...and then some nice weather....If I may quote from "Field of Dreams," "Mr. is this heaven? No," replied Kevin Costner, "It's Iowa."

I went to college in Iowa. I know that might upset Kevin and the rest of the Minnesota mob, but I did date a girl from Minnesota, actually, uhm, several :eyes:

Oops, the wifey just got home! :salut:


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Originally Posted by GPStyles (Post 71610)
I've seen this posted elsewhere but have only given it a cursory look before.

Today I read it and immediately decided it needed saving and printing to go into the bag.

There are a couple of things I really want to draw attention to and give my thoughts on.

1) Learn to "have to" into "want to"
2) You are what you "Think you are"
3) Winners see what they want, Losers see what they don't want
4) Always be in a good frame of mind
5) Believing in your mental image will make you a master
6) Be in charge of your thinking

The first thing I would say is that quite a few 'sports psychologists' are making a pretty good living off these directions!

I think all of the listed ones above are simple but brilliant. One of my key goals this year is to "appear as a champion". By this I mean I am going to update my wardrobe so that I never stand on the first tee looking anything other than a champion golfer. I don't mean I will be buying Poulter's baby pink tartan trousers and pink FJ icons but I do mean that my clothes will match and compliment and they will be ironed and spotless. This may seem basic but I could definitely be accused in the past of wearing 'comfortable old trousers' that looked like they'd been my friends for manys a year! The same with my dryjoys - they are a good pair of shoes but more often than not they are a grimy brown from the muck on my course.


KevCarter 03-28-2010 08:08 AM

No problem Patrick,

I had to work with a guy from Iowa the past 3 years and learned how to put up with him. Heck, I even talk to O.B. and he's from Canada. Henry Kissinger had nothing on me! :laughing9

Kevin

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:laughing9


And...she can cook!!!! Is this a great country or what? Now, if we could just get a certain Potus to retire and be a university president...and then some tax breaks...and then some nice weather....If I may quote from "Field of Dreams," "Mr. is this heaven? No," replied Kevin Costner, "It's Iowa."

I went to college in Iowa. I know that might upset Kevin and the rest of the Minnesota mob, but I did date a girl from Minnesota, actually, uhm, several :eyes:

Oops, the wifey just got home! :salut:



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