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no_mind_golfer 10-31-2008 04:57 PM

How to get more Clubhead speed...
 
Anyone interested in finding more club head speed (which is everyone one would assume) should read the following then follow their work. I'm telling you there is GOLD in the pot at the end of that rainbow.

http://www.asme.org/NewsPublicPolicy...?PrintPage=yes

Reducing radius is the key and there are many ways to skin that cat. El Tigre "snaps" his left leg and is so doing move the left shoulder socket up. That's probably not the best way though lest ye too eventually need surgery.

Forget about "snapping your kinetic chain" (its bs anyway) learn to control your HAND PATH!

Uppndownn 10-31-2008 06:04 PM

Whut?
 
I would like you to clarify hub radius and ways to reduce it.
Thanks,

UPP in stunning Ohio

Bigwill 10-31-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uppndownn (Post 57186)
I would like you to clarify hub radius and ways to reduce it.
Thanks,

UPP in stunning Ohio

Ditto. I'm a little foggy on it as well.

no_mind_golfer 10-31-2008 07:58 PM

Hub Radius
 
It may be a term Nesbit invented I don't know but that doesn't matter.

Think of a wagon wheel. YOu have a rim and you have spokes extending to the hub (which has a certain radius). Now look at figure 2 of : http://www.motionanalysis.com/pdf/2005_nesbit.pdf . Those are diagrams of golfer swings (Think of each club freezeframe as a spoke with the head on the "rim" and the grip end on the "hub".

So the Hub is the "path" your hands take from the top down to and beyond the ball. The "instantaneous" radius of that path is what matters. You want it to decrease (This is what prevents casting and maximizes club head speed). If you fit a curve to that hand path of a better golfer it would look like a contracting spiral.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3ev96wpPYV...piral_1000.gif

Augusta Golf 10-31-2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

We have determined that there are relationships that exist between the changing radius and club head velocity, applied force, torque, work, and power, and that even a small change in hub path and wrist trajectory values can increase club head velocity.
We already know the #2 accumulator gives velocity power so it would seem that the radius is shorter until the point where the wrists begin to uncock and after that point the radius lengthens. That's why people who cast from the top lose power and tend to hit fat shots, they just made the club longer.

My 2 cents worth.

Mike O 10-31-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uppndownn (Post 57186)
I would like you to clarify hub radius and ways to reduce it.
Thanks,

UPP in stunning Ohio

The Buzzard is back!:)

drulf 11-01-2008 03:31 AM

The end of the Age of DS extensor action?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uppndownn (Post 57186)
I would like you to clarify hub radius and ways to reduce it.
Thanks,

UPP in stunning Ohio

You just have to bend your arms a (Nes) bit?

hackattack 11-01-2008 10:39 AM

?
 
It should be so; as the better swing has a bent right arm at impact.

no_mind_golfer 12-06-2008 09:54 PM

Parametric Acceleration.....
 
Did you know....

if you tug on the string of a simple pendulum at just the right time you can inject kinetic energy and increase the amplitude of oscillation?

http://www.millersville.edu/~physics....the.month/34/

In that experiment the student is using a loudspeaker which tugs up and down on the pendulum string at just the right frequency in order to increase the amplitude. Its called parametric acceleration.

The same principle can be used to extract energy. When the phasing is such that it extracts energy, its sometimes called: active vibration control or active vibration damping. What's this have to do with golf in general and this thread in particular?

Its the same.

When the club is releasing it is like a pendulum, the club is swinging about a point at the wrists. While we cannot shorten the length of the club shaft during the swing we can apply more centripetal acceleration than is needed to keep the club rotating. We can tug "UP" at just the right time thereby injecting kinetic energy to the club head. When done in the final stage of the downswing this is effectively the same thing as "reducing the hand path radius". In 2002 a Japanese scientist wrote a paper proving the amazing efficacy of this technique to increase club head speed called: Parametric Acceleration in Golf Swing.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...TRY=1&SRETRY=0
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/articl...06A1001780.php


All long hitters do it. They may not know they're doing it ... but all long hitters inject that final dose of energy by "pulling up" at the end of the downswing. Some even end up on their toes as a result like Bubba.

One interesting bit of data reported by Nesbit is that a wide range of players have almost exactly the same hand speed profile (bottom set of curves on link below notice its not slowing as others suggest either but that's another issue)

http://www.jssm.org/vol4/n4/17/F4.htm

Their hand velocity profiles are nearly identical yet clearly some swings are much more effective than the others. What's the difference? Its the path their hand follow reducing radius vs. non-reducing (or even increasing) radius... its pulling up at at the last second vs. not pulling up..

Its all in the hands folks... use your body to make your hands go where they've got to go.

O.B.Left 12-06-2008 11:45 PM

What is the ideal way of pulling up for the tournament player? Moving the left shoulder socket up?

When you pull up do you also need to lower the level of your head or shoulder unit to keep the club head path optimal?

Thanks

OB


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