face closed, but looks square at address
 

Any suggestions/ideas on this …

my game for the most part is OK, the thing that has been killing my scores of late is every so often I hit this pull hook shot, usually with the mid irons. The most perplexing thing is I know how the shot occurred ….

even although I think I am setting up to the ball squarely after I take the shot and when I return the club to where the ball would have been the face of the club is closed by about 45 degrees.

When I swing it doesn’t feel like I am re-gripping the club and, as I said earlier, when I set up the club the face looks square!!

Any ideas, please, it’s driving me mad!!

Since address is NOT impact, set up with the face a bit open because if the clubface is closing- as it should- at impact it has then closed far too much. At impact- for swingers producing an Horizontal Hinge action- the face stills needs to be open- it is the only way it can strike the inside quad of the ball, then square up as it closes thru the impact zone. Check impact fix alignments from time to time. It will be different then how address looks.

Is your left wrist cupped at address and flat when you check the face after the swing?

hmmm...
 

I think you maybe on to something … my left wrist is ever so slightly cupped at address and when I check after the swing I try and return it to that slightly cupped address look. However, when I do pull hook it looks like my left wrist is over cupped.
Is the fix for this making sure I have a flat left wrist through impact, or is this related to something else?

Thanks

And dont forget pressure points. The grip pressure is not super light as some would recommend but firm where it should be firm. A proper pressure would render re gripping impossible I think.

pressure points aren't squeezed as a grip. Pressure points are contacts where power accumulators drive against. Pressure Points is where the power accumulators put their power into

Now a proper grip is important. I do like to lock tightly my last three fingers (pp#2) on the grip- You can't choke a bird my holding tight on their legs, can ya Sam? But this is not the application of a #2 pp. Also develop a trigger finger on the right hand around the shaft where PP# 3 resides, again it is not the true application of the pressure point. The trigger finger looks like a question mark. I have Lynn discussing this trigger finger on tape- I'll post it soon.

If you wear a glove and are right handed, are you wearing out your gloves on the lower left palm and at the 2nd joint of the left thumb?

Yes yes agreed. PP3 is loose. Pressure points in a TGM context are power accumulator related. As for regripping, make sure your grip pressure is firm in the proper places. A firm grip in the last three fingers of the left hand in particular for a closing club face, pp 2. Also maintain pp1 in terms of solid grip pressure.

Grip firm, wrists loose, continuos swinging 5 or 6 swings and check to see if the face has rotated. Do it till it doesnt rotate then hit a ball.

I pulled out an old glove and there is wear inside the knuckle of the thumb joint and on the lower palm part of the glove, almost at the base of the palm if you were to do a karate chop, is this an indication of re-gripping?

Thanks

I have been struggling all year with the "square look" at address, grip, hinge action and pulls and hooks!

I've concluded that as a swinger with a slightly strong grip, I need to do two things: 1) make sure the face is slighly open at address, especially with the short and mid irons, and 2) employ a "no roll feel" through the strike.

I think most if not all swingers with strong grips must do so, if not, ........its going left!