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Delaware Golf 12-31-2007 12:44 AM

Tom Tomasello Swinging Motion
 
Tomasello swinging per 6-B-2-0 first paragraph. "Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, the muscles of both forearms, any---or all---are available to actuate this Assembly." See chapter 1 of the Tomasello video chapter series from Australia where Tommy talks about starting the club down with both forearms. Oh yeah, and the uncocking action of the right elbow per 7-3 The Magic of the Right Forearm. The right forearm Karate chop...per the second Tomasello letter video.

DG

Delaware Golf 01-27-2008 11:05 AM

Not about who's right, It's a matter of What's RIGHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 47415)
Tomasello swinging per 6-B-2-0 first paragraph. "Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, the muscles of both forearms, any---or all---are available to actuate this Assembly." See chapter 1 of the Tomasello video chapter series from Australia where Tommy talks about starting the club down with both forearms. Oh yeah, and the uncocking action of the right elbow per 7-3 The Magic of the Right Forearm. The right forearm Karate chop...per the second Tomasello letter video.

DG

For my money, this is one of the sections (6-B-2-0) in TGM that validates the teaching approaches of both Lynn and Tommy. It's not a matter of who's right, it's a matter of "What's Right".

DG

Yoda 01-27-2008 01:04 PM

The Power Package: Pivot Delivery Versus Arm Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 47415)

Tomasello swinging per 6-B-2-0 first paragraph. "Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, the muscles of both forearms, any---or all---are available to actuate this Assembly." See chapter 1 of the Tomasello video chapter series from Australia where Tommy talks about starting the club down with both forearms. Oh yeah, and the uncocking action of the right elbow per 7-3 The Magic of the Right Forearm. The right forearm Karate chop...per the second Tomasello letter video.

[Small bold italic emphasis by Yoda.]


Two crucial concepts to understand and differentiate are Delivery and Release.

In Pivot Strokes, the Power Package (6-0) -- Assembled with its Power Accumulated (6-B-0), Loaded (6-C-0) and Stored (6-D-0) -- is Delivered (6-E-0) by the Pivot (7-12) to its Release Point. Only then does the independent action of the Arms (the straightening of the Right Elbow) continue the Delivery of the Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) into Impact (6-K-0). In other words, only then does Arm Action -- versus Pivot Action -- "actuate" the Power Package. So . . .

First the Pivot.

Then, the Arms.

[This cries out for a video.]

:3gears:

It is this delayed extension ("uncocking") of the Right Arm -- the third side of the Triangle Assembly (6-A-1) -- that Triggers the Release (6-M-0) and drives the Club through Impact (1-L #10).

Tom Tomasello understood these concepts, as evidenced in his quotes from a video just sent me by our own Delaware Golf:

Demonstrating the Start Down and its Pivot Action, Tommy says:

"Lower the right shoulder . . . we know we don't do this [with the arms] . . .. this is what the body does, not the arms."

Then, demonstrating the Start Down Waggle (a pumping motion training the initial move from the Top), he says:

"Rock the shoulders. . . rock the shoulders."

"Now" he says, having delivered the Club well into the Downstroke via the 'rocking' Right Shoulder (Shoulder Turn Acceleration per 8-7), "uncock the arm" (Release per 8-9).

Tom's video will be in our Gallery ASAP. Thanks, Dave. :)

Bottom line: Only in Non-Pivot Strokes does the Arm action begin immediately (6-L-0). Otherwise, the Downstroke Sequence (6-M-1) is broken, the Right Shoulder remains 'high' and the Elbow becomes straight prior to (or during) Impact. This "running out of Right Arm" triggers an automatic Throwaway (6-D-0), and unless done intentionally and for a purpose, the shot is lost.

Delaware Golf 01-27-2008 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 48291)
Two crucial concepts to understand and differentiate are Delivery and Release.

In Pivot Strokes, the Power Package (6-0) -- Assembled with its Power Accumulated (6-B-0), Loaded (6-C-0) and Stored (6-D-0) -- is Delivered (6-E-0) by the Pivot (7-12) to its Release Point. Only then does the independent action of the Arms (the straightening of the Right Elbow) continue the Delivery of the Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) into Impact (6-K-0). In other words, only then does Arm Action -- versus Pivot Action -- "actuate" the Power Package. So . . .

First the Pivot.

Then, the Arms.

[This cries out for a video.]

:3gears:

It is this delayed extension ("uncocking") of the Right Arm -- the third side of the Triangle Assembly (6-A-1) -- that Triggers the Release (6-M-0) and drives the Club through Impact (1-L #10).

Tom Tomasello understood these concepts, as evidenced in his quotes from a video just sent me by our own Delaware Golf:

Demonstrating the Start Down and its Pivot Action, Tommy says:

"Lower the right shoulder . . . we know we don't do this [with the arms] . . .. this is what the body does, not the arms."

Then, demonstrating the Start Down Waggle (a pumping motion training the initial move from the Top), he says:

"Rock the shoulders. . . rock the shoulders."

"Now" he says, having delivered the Club well into the Downstroke via the 'rocking' Right Shoulder (Shoulder Turn Acceleration per 8-7), "uncock the arm" (Release per 8-9).

Tom's video will be in our Gallery ASAP. Thanks, Dave. :)

Bottom line: Only in Non-Pivot Strokes does the Arm action begin immediately (6-L-0). Otherwise, the Downstroke Sequence (6-M-1) is broken, the Right Shoulder remains 'high' and the Elbow becomes straight prior to (or during) Impact. This "running out of Right Arm" triggers an automatic Throwaway (6-D-0), and unless done intentionally and for a purpose, the shot is lost.



Yoda,

Per Tommy's letter series #2 video, eventhough Tommy is starting the uncocking process of the right elbow manually at the beginning of the downswing, he isn't putting the club into a released conditioned. Reference the comment about high speed camera action from letter video #2, I believe Tommy is making the point that eventhough he is throwing it from the top, he's still getting a snap release. True extension is still at the bottom of the stroke. Reference Tommy's instruction throughout all of the Chapter series videos.

Thanks for Referencing 6-K-0 and 6-L-0.

DG

Daryl 01-27-2008 02:33 PM

TGM Simplified
 
Yoda,

Masterful translation from Homerese to Darylese. I can live on baby food. Just keep it coming.

Yoda 01-27-2008 02:58 PM

Battlefield Promotion: A Footsoldier Assumes Command
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 48300)
Yoda,

Masterful translation from Homerese to Darylese. I can live on baby food. Just keep it coming.

Daryl,

I am in awe of YOUR recent posts (in other threads). YOU keep'em comin'!

:salut: :salut: :salut:

YodasLuke 01-27-2008 03:04 PM

go, tell it on the mountain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 48291)
Two crucial concepts to understand and differentiate are Delivery and Release.

In Pivot Strokes, the Power Package (6-0) -- Assembled with its Power Accumulated (6-B-0), Loaded (6-C-0) and Stored (6-D-0) -- is Delivered (6-E-0) by the Pivot (7-12) to its Release Point. Only then does the independent action of the Arms (the straightening of the Right Elbow) continue the Delivery of the Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) into Impact (6-K-0). In other words, only then does Arm Action -- versus Pivot Action -- "actuate" the Power Package. So . . .

First the Pivot.

Then, the Arms.

It is this delayed extension ("uncocking") of the Right Arm -- the third side of the Triangle Assembly (6-A-1) -- that Triggers the Release (6-M-0) and drives the Club through Impact (1-L #10).

Tom Tomasello understood these concepts, as evidenced in his quotes from a video Delaware Golf has just sent me. First, demonstrating Start Down, Tommy says "Lower the right shoulder . . . we know we don't do this [with the arms] . . .. this is what the body does, not the arms." Then, demonstrating the Start Down Waggle (a pumping motion training the initial move from the Top), he says: "Rock the shoulders. . . rock the shoulders. Now . . ." he says, having delivered the Club well into the Downstroke via the 'rocking' Right Shoulder, "uncock the arm."

Tom's video will be in our Gallery ASAP. Thanks, Dave. :)

Bottom line: Only in Non-Pivot Strokes does the Arm action begin immediately (6-L-0). Otherwise, the Downstroke Sequence (6-M-1) is broken, the Right Shoulder remains 'high' and the Elbow becomes straight prior to (or during) Impact. This "running out of Right Arm" triggers an automatic Throwaway (6-D-0), and unless done intentionally and for a purpose, the shot is lost.

If it pleases the court, can I second that motion?

Daryl 01-27-2008 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 48305)
Daryl,

I am in awe of YOUR recent posts (in other threads). YOU keep'em comin'!

:salut: :salut: :salut:

I am but the humble student. But I am a student of Yoda.

Yoda 01-27-2008 04:10 PM

Students and Teachers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 48307)

. . . I am a student of Yoda.

And . . .

I am the student of Daryl.

Especially in his lay role as Master Sommelier at the Bellagio!

http://www.bellagio.com/restaurants/...sommelier.aspx

It's a good thing!

:salut:

okie 01-27-2008 06:55 PM

Masterful Concoction!
 
Pinch of Daryl + a hint of Bucket = Okie's incubator perculatin !


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