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Bigwill 10-01-2006 07:58 PM

90 degree wristcock
 
Is it possible to cock the left wrist so that the shaft is 90 degrees to the left arm while maintaining a level right wrist? I can't see how, but if anyone can, please enlighten me. I'm lost on this one.

mrodock 10-01-2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwill
Is it possible to cock the left wrist so that the shaft is 90 degrees to the left arm while maintaining a level right wrist? I can't see how, but if anyone can, please enlighten me. I'm lost on this one.

Some people just don't have the flexibility due to bone placement. I can't remember the bone in question, but if it is in the way, you will not be capable of doing the above. Carl Rabito talked about this on the golf channel. I for one cannot even come close.

Bigwill 10-01-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mrodock
Some people just don't have the flexibility due to bone placement. I can't remember the bone in question, but if it is in the way, you will not be capable of doing the above. Carl Rabito talked about this on the golf channel. I for one cannot even come close.

I'm not sure I follow. How does wrist flexibility affect the ability to cock the left wrist to 90 degrees, without cocking the right wrist as well?? Told you, this one has me flummoxed:eyes:

mrodock 10-01-2006 09:11 PM

You have to have a certain range of motion to articulate a joint in a direction a certain amount. If something inhibits your ability to get the range of motion that you desire, 90 degrees in this example, then you will have to compensate in some fashion, for me I need to double-cock.

Bigwill 10-01-2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mrodock
You have to have a certain range of motion to articulate a joint in a direction a certain amount. If something inhibits your ability to get the range of motion that you desire, 90 degrees in this example, then you will have to compensate in some fashion, for me I need to double-cock.


Ok, so you're saying that if I have the proper range of motion in my wrists, a 90 cocking of the left wrist won't result in the cocking of the right wrist?

birdie_man 10-01-2006 09:55 PM

I definitely can go past 90....esp. with a real swing with the change of directions at the top....where the clubhead is really laggin.

My left thumb hurts sometimes because of the club pushing on it. (when Loading)

Can't do nearly as much with a "short thumb" or the thumb Aft at Fix BTW.

12 piece bucket 10-01-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by birdie_man
I definitely can go past 90....esp. with a real swing with the change of directions at the top....where the clubhead is really laggin.

My left thumb hurts sometimes because of the club pushing on it. (when Loading)

Awwww come on!!!! Tell the truth . . . that ain't why your thumb hurts!!!

lagster 10-01-2006 10:02 PM

Illusion
 
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
Ok, so you're saying that if I have the proper range of motion in my wrists, a 90 cocking of the left wrist won't result in the cocking of the right wrist?

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Sometimes this can be a kind of ILLUSION. For example, with a guy like Sergio Garcia, that really shollows out his downswing and even may get below the Elbow Plane on the downswing shift... there will look like there is a very sharp angle of the left wrist. With a player like Tom Watson, or Adam Scott, where they are on a more Upright Plane, with little Plane Shift on the downswing... this angle will not appear as great. Try this in a mirror and see if you can see this. Keep the left wrist angle the same, but change planes, and see the different looks. This might have more of an effect with video.

12 piece bucket 10-01-2006 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lagster
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Sometimes this can be a kind of ILLUSION. For example, with a guy like Sergio Garcia, that really shollows out his downswing and even may get below the Elbow Plane on the downswing shift... there will look like there is a very sharp angle of the left wrist. With a player like Tom Watson, or Adam Scott, where they are on a more Upright Plane, with little Plane Shift on the downswing... this angle will not appear as great. Try this in a mirror and see if you can see this. Keep the left wrist angle the same, but change planes, and see the different looks. This might have more of an effect with video.

Astute observation.

Bigwill 10-01-2006 10:19 PM

Will the right wrist stop being level if the left wrist is cocked to 90 degrees or beyond? Is it possible to maintain a level right wrist if you allow the left wrist to cock to 90 degrees or more? Why or why not?

Thanks for the responses.


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