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12 piece bucket 01-20-2006 10:32 PM

Does anybody own a Flail?
 
Just curious . . . Have any of y'all ever actually used one of these Impliments? Never seen one in person. I may check ebay out.

Also, I wonder why there isn't a flail type apparatus in the Machine Concept in 1-L? Or did I miss something?

Per 2-K, "Compare the Primary Lever Assembly (6-A-2) with the common flail." The Law of the Flail is the Swinger's primary concern.

I watched a lot of Kung Fu with David Caradene as a kid. I had some nunchucks (sp?). Those things put lumps all over my head. So I can vouch for the effective velocity.

Richw 01-20-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
I watched a lot of Kung Fu with David Caradene as a kid. I had some nunchucks (sp?). Those things put lumps all over my head. So I can vouch for the effective velocity.


LOL! I'm with ya there!!!

Yoda 01-20-2006 11:00 PM

Two Dowels And A Thong
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

Just curious . . . Have any of y'all ever actually used one of these Impliments? Never seen one in person. I may check ebay out.

Also, I wonder why there isn't a flail type apparatus in the Machine Concept in 1-L? Or did I miss something?

Check your homespum video, Colonel. My guess is that I demo-ed both the farmer's flail (two dowels and a thong / 2-K #1-#3) and the Golfer's Flail (two hinged boards / 2-K #4 and #5).

Regarding a "flail type apparatus" in 1-L, forgeddaboudit. Sketch 1-L -- Golf Stroke Geometry -- is irrespective of Power.

12 piece bucket 01-20-2006 11:29 PM

Hold up! We're talking G.O.L.F. not The Cheeta Club right?
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Check your homespum video, Colonel. My guess is that I demo-ed both the farmer's flail (two dowels and a thong / 2-K #1-#3) and the Golfer's Flail (two hinged boards / 2-K #4 and #5).

Regarding a "flail type apparatus" in 1-L, forgeddaboudit. Sketch 1-L -- Golf Stroke Geometry -- is irrespective of Power.

I don't know about you but I left my thong at home that day =; .

I do recall now . . . it was the demo of Throw Out yep you are correct sir!

What exactly did a farmer do with the flail? Chop off chicken heads? I reckon there is a big mechanical advantage to something with regards to agricultural persuits. Piggy Wiggy is about as close to farm as I come . . . unless you count the meth lab in the basement :???: .

And since we're at it . . . what the heck is a "rope handle?" I know luv-handles intimately but rope handle is a head scratcher for Bucket.

Yoda 01-21-2006 11:18 PM

Axe Handle Versus Rope Handle
 
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

. . . what the heck is a "rope handle?" I know luv-handles intimately but rope handle is a head scratcher for Bucket.

The Hitter's Clubshaft acts as an Axe Handle that he Pushes radially (from behind) through Impact. The Swinger's Clubshaft acts as a piece of rope -- the Rope handle -- that he Pulls longitudinally (lengthwise) through Impact.

Remember, you can push on the Axe Handle, but...

You can't push on a rope handle.

tongzilla 01-22-2006 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda
The Hitter's Clubshaft acts as an Axe Handle that he Pushes radially (from behind) through Impact. The Swinger's Clubshaft acts as a piece of rope -- the Rope handle -- that he Pulls longitudinally (lengthwise) through Impact.

Remember, you can push on the Axe Handle, but...

You can't push on a rope handle.

But you can pull on an Axe Handle, can't you? I always wonder why this never gets mentioned.

stilltrying 01-22-2006 06:05 AM

Axe handle
 
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
But you can pull on an Axe Handle, can't you? I always wonder why this never gets mentioned.

Funny you should mention it, while splitting firewood the other day, I decided I'm a swinger. With the axe that is.

annikan skywalker 01-22-2006 09:14 AM

Splitting wood is swinging.... Longitudinal acceleration ....Chopping down a tree is hitting....Radial acceleration...pushing from behind!!!!

stilltrying 01-22-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Splitting wood is swinging.... Longitudinal acceleration ....Chopping down a tree is hitting....Radial acceleration...pushing from behind!!!!

Respectfully disagree, still swinging just on a different plane.
Although I do prefer a chainsaw for chopping down trees.

Yoda 01-22-2006 12:05 PM

Axe Handles For All
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tongzilla

But you can pull on an Axe Handle, can't you? I always wonder why this never gets mentioned.


The Axe Handle versus Rope Handle analogy is useful in differentiating Radial Acceleration (Hitting) from Longitudinal Acceleration (Swinging) and the respective techniques employed (Push or Pull).

You can, of course, Pull on an Axe Handle, but it still will function as "a piece of string." A stiff piece of string to be sure, but a piece of string nonetheless. And the Swinger will benefit from using a stiff piece of string.

Homer Kelley felt very strongly that all golfers -- not just 'good golfers' -- would benefit from Clubs with a stiff shaft flex. In our Authorized Insructor Masters Class of January 1982, he stated this conclusion in no uncertain terms:

"It would be best if they all came with axe handles."


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