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Trig 01-27-2005 09:08 PM

Impact bag video
 
Check out the impact bag video. Yoda shows how to use this training aid.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...-ImpactBag.wmv

It's in the Swamp/Video album.

Comment here!

PS - Forgive my home-movie quality....we had a dark cold day that day.

Doug 01-27-2005 10:20 PM

Thank You for putting up the video.

Great stuff..Off to the garage to put a hurt on my bag :!:

Trig 01-28-2005 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Thank You for putting up the video.

Great stuff..Off to the garage to put a hurt on my bag :!:

You are welcome! It's fun to watch even for me - and I was there!

LSH 01-28-2005 08:13 AM

Excellent timing!!!
 
You posted this at a very opportune time for me. I had planned to leave work early to go to a sporting goods store to purchase an impact bag.

Thank You
Steve

rgkeller 01-30-2005 05:34 PM

I don't get the idea of this drill.

The exaggerated bent/arched left wrist through impact, all the pressure points behind the shaft, and the right arm decidedly below the left arm all combine to promote an open clubface and a dead block.

What am I trying to learn with this drill?

mgjordan 01-30-2005 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgkeller
I don't get the idea of this drill.

The exaggerated bent/arched left wrist through impact, all the pressure points behind the shaft, and the right arm decidedly below the left arm all combine to promote an open clubface and a dead block.

What am I trying to learn with this drill?

The resaon the right arm is below the left is because you go DOWN plane. The right arm and right shoulder drive the club DOWN plane into the ground. The reason his left wrist is arched is because he is hitting an impact back with lots of resistance. If it were a ball, the left wrist wouldn't arch like that. The dowel would move with the left arm through a ball, but in the demonstration the dowel doesn't move with the arm because it is stuck on an impact bag...the causes a bowing appearence of the left wrist. The pressure points directly behind the shaft will not cause an open clubface...if anything, they will promote a square one. Having the hands ahead of the clubhead has nothing to do with an open, shut, or square face. Left wrist control has to do with the clubface. The hands ahead of the clubhead is the key to good impact alignments.

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rgkeller 01-30-2005 07:27 PM

Andrade is in a dead block position with his left arm off his chest BEFORE impact.

O'Grady and Hogan are connected in a powerful impact position that looks nothing like the impact bag video drill.

I still do not see the value of the drill extended into an impact bag a couple of feet in front of the left foot with the left wrist high and arched.

But then, I'm not a Yoda.

EdZ 01-30-2005 07:57 PM

The value is there - just add 'swivel' - rotation of the entire unit.

What you are seeing is the 'package' being delivered into the bag. Now imagine that package rotating through around PP1. If you indeed reached this position in a full swing, yes, I would consider that a block, however you can play that way very well, you just must swing left. An angled hinge that comes closer to a verticle hinge than a horizontal one.

Just ask Trevino, blocks can work, but IMO you give up some power (transfer power) for control.

mgjordan 01-30-2005 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgkeller
Andrade is in a dead block position with his left arm off his chest BEFORE impact.

O'Grady and Hogan are connected in a powerful impact position that looks nothing like the impact bag video drill.

I still do not see the value of the drill extended into an impact bag a couple of feet in front of the left foot with the left wrist high and arched.

But then, I'm not a Yoda.

Like I said, the reason you see the exagerated look is because he is hitting a very heavy impact bag. If it were a ball, you wouldn't have the resistance and the hands wouldn't press forward independantly from the clubhead. You would get a look like this:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...-ImpactBag.wmv

The benefit for having the bag forward of impact is because impact ins't a station. Followthrough is. You wan't to drive your wedges THROUGH impact not to it. You want them to stay in alignment until both arms are straight.

If you work with the impact bag, you will have a powerful, "Hogan like" impact position. Does Lynn look like he is doing anything exagerated here?:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/copperm...m=6&pos=13

That is what impact bag work gets you.

Yoda 01-31-2005 04:53 AM

Dragging Baby Brother
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgkeller
I don't get the idea of this drill.

The exaggerated bent/arched left wrist through impact, all the pressure points behind the shaft, and the right arm decidedly below the left arm all combine to promote an open clubface and a dead block.

What am I trying to learn with this drill?

[Bold by Yoda.]

rg,

This drill teaches you to keep your Left Wrist Flat and to deliver Clubhead Lag Pressure through the Ball. These are the two things you absolutely must do to reach your potential as a player. And, make no mistake, each Stroke in the video did both.

Regarding the post-Impact alignments you have observed:

1. In the video, as Mgjordan correctly noted, I am Impacting a heavy Bag with a light stick. The Bag is non-resilient, and its mass is several hundred times greater than that of a Golf Ball. I am Making a Motion, the bottom portion of which has been rudely interrupted by the Bag hitting the stick just as hard as the stick is hitting the Bag. My Left Arm and Wrist have not suffered the same collision. Hence, the stick has been buried in the Bag; my Arms and Hands have continued forward; and the extreme alignments you have observed are simply God's Plan. In fact, for the alignments to be any less extreme, at Impact I would have had to Quit. And that wasn't going to happen!

2. Further, I amTraining with the express purpose of eliminating the Golfer's Public Enemy #1: The Bent Left Wrist through Impact. I am training to take Lag Pressure to Both Arms Straight and beyond. As stated in the video, Impact alignments at a normal Ball Location are irrelevant to my purpose. Also, the Angled Hinge Action (and its Rhythm) of this Hitting Stroke have been stifled by the Impact. For obvious reasons, the Finish Swivel is non-existent.

3. Even so, the Motion is not as exaggerated as you think. While it is obviously a wrench of your concepts -- and those of tens of millions of other golfers as well -- what you see in the video is what the great playersFeel through Impact. And the reason they get such different results than we do is because they get there -- Through the Ball with a Flat Left Wrist -- and we don't. It's as simple as that! All this is good news because you are now standing at The Gateway to your best golf.

Rarely do Players -- even the 'good' Players -- sustain the Clubhead Lag Pressure through Impact. In fact, Lag Pressure Point Pressure is in its greatest jeopardy 3-6 inches before Impact: What should have been a sustained drive to Both Arms Straight becomes a Throw. To be sure, it can be an 'expertly' delivered Throw, but it is a Throw nonetheless. And history's great strikers don't Throw...they Drive! Hitting or Swinging, they Drive. I'll put some photos up soon that will surprise you.

Homer Kelley told us:

"The Clubhead Lag 'lays' into the [Right Forefinger] #3 Pressure Point. The Club doesn't want to go along, but it has to. You don't Throw the Club! It's like dragging your baby brother."

Now, it's up to you. It's one thing to read about a drill. It's another thing to see it done and to ponder its usefulness. But to actually do it and enjoy its benefits -- aah, there's the rub!

"Do or do not. There is no try."


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