Lob/flop shot questions
 

The last years I've played with a weak double action underhand grip - or as I would said it before I read TGM - one hand on each side of the shaft.

With that grip I played the full strokes with the ball slightly forward of standard, and a downstroke pp1&3 loading before I let the right arm pull the club through with a horizontal hinging action (I'm a lefty). Ball flight on successful strokes was high with a slight draw and good distance for my swing speed.

But now, I am back to strong single action grip as I believe that is best for all around consistency. Yesterday, when I was practicing lob shots from the rough, on the first efforts, the club just slid under the ball. I believe I was using a pitching procedure with low point after the ball - and managed to lay'back the clubface with pp3 pressure.

The next thing I did was to move the low aiming point of the swing - two inches before the ball. Then I came flatter through the ball and got fairly consistent result. Perhaps more of a punch than a pitch.

Then I decided to try an older short game procedure of mine. Very moderate hip bend, turn the hips from the feet and create plenty of with in the back swing. Pull the club all the way through with virtually no pp3 pressure and release at the ball. Got better ball contact and similar trajectory and distance control as with the above procedure.

My questions: Do you have comments to the above procedures and what is the recommended procedure for lob/flop shots for a player usually applying SSA grip?

:shock:

BerntR,

Hinging,Hinging,Hinging. The three motions- horizontal, angled, and vertical. It is necessary to have the clubface laying back only for optimum height in regards to the flop or lob. So practice the three hinges everyday (in the office, at home, visualize them in the car, and one the golf course) until you OWN them. From there understand that you CAN'T be passionate about the three hinges which give us clubface control.

Ball positioning and shaft control will also aid in your quest for consistent height. As will tracing a straight line. Stick with the strong single action grip, hinging, tracing the straight line, and ball positioned at or very near to low point.

Thanks for the reply, VJ

I found another short game thread where you went through various shots after I sent my post. I believe low point is what I need to control.

The best lob shots are hit with "throwaway" using Pause minor stroke with maximum Layback on the Hands Only Plane through impact....MAJOR LEAKAGE...

High Risk...High Rewards!!!

Use a flat left wrist and the reverse roll of vertical Hinging if you're too "scared" too "take a leak"...

That's for those who DO NOT have Educated Hands and know how to regain the lag pressure on the next tee with the DRIVER!!!

I'll challenge ANYONE...I MEAN ANYONE to a 2-Iron Flop...and they can use they're 60 or 64 degree wedge...

I can throw it away and leak it and catch it with a lob wedge....All in one motion!!!

Yes catch it!!!!

Skywalker

No need to add to this, read it until it sinks in.

Oh yeah...If you want to get nasty with the flop close the stance line and open the plane line...Use excessive knee bend and waist bend ... Play the ball on the outside of the left-shoulder.....

This "Criss-Cross" set-up of the machine...will give you the maximum "over-taking rate" of components....

THE NASTY FLOP!!!!