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lagster 12-25-2007 06:39 PM

#3 Accumulator Discussion
 
This Accumulator is one of the more complex items in TGM. Let's discuss the Accumulator in detail.

I remember Tom Tomasello saying something to the effect that just a little angle in the #3 Accumulator(High Hands at Impact Fix, but not zeroed out) can produce a lot of power.

There are many things to discuss here. Rhythm, Hand height, Grip, Hand Plane(where flashlight points), etc.

What do you think?

Loren 01-02-2008 01:05 PM

Where are you #3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lagster (Post 47287)
This Accumulator is one of the more complex items in TGM. Let's discuss the Accumulator in detail.

I remember Tom Tomasello saying something to the effect that just a little angle in the #3 Accumulator(High Hands at Impact Fix, but not zeroed out) can produce a lot of power.

There are many things to discuss here. Rhythm, Hand height, Grip, Hand Plane(where flashlight points), etc.

What do you think?

Correct me if I'm wrong, high hands at address do not affect the #3 accumulator, which is a function of where the shaft lies in the left hand grip setup.
I do not recall TT mentioning Impact fix on the videos. His hands were high but he was talking about getting the right forearm on plane in that regard.
And that's an interesting point. Is the right forearm on plane in adjusted address?

TT gripped it like many others instructed, two pressure points, one under the heel pad of the left hand, the other in the crook of the index finger.
He had a strong single action. He did not use a left hand finger grip.
His training club had a training grip which he highly recommended.
In this regard, somewhere I read that too much #3 angle is detrimental, which would make TT's grip superior to the left hand "in the fingers" grip.
Same gripping method is taught by Ballard, and I assumed he was following Hogan.

Per 7-1, "Grip Types other than the Strong Sincle Action (10-2-B) either destroy the Wedges or produce inferior deviations". Of course that has more to do with the right hand position. The left thumb should be in line with the #3 pressure point.

Loren 01-02-2008 01:12 PM

#3 Accumulator Rhythm
 
Regarding Rhythm:

6-B-3-B "Placing the Clubshaft anywhere between the Heel and Cup of the Left Hand will reduce its angle accordingly but will not alter its Rhythm (2-G) until Zero position is reached."

neil 01-02-2008 09:11 PM

[quote=Loren;47474]Correct me if I'm wrong, high hands at address do not affect the #3 accumulator, which is a function of where the shaft lies in the left hand grip setup.
I do not recall TT mentioning Impact fix on the videos. His hands were high but he was talking about getting the right forearm on plane in that regard.
And that's an interesting point. Is the right forearm on plane in adjusted address?

TT gripped it like many others instructed, two pressure points, one under the heel pad of the left hand, the other in the crook of the index finger.
He had a strong single action. He did not use a left hand finger grip.
His training club had a training grip which he highly recommended.
In this regard, somewhere I read that too much #3 angle is detrimental, which would make TT's grip superior to the left hand "in the fingers" grip.
Same gripping method is taught by Ballard, and I assumed he was following Hogan.

Per 7-1, "Grip Types other than the Strong Sincle Action (10-2-B) either destroy the Wedges or produce inferior deviations".
Quote:

Of course that has more to do with the right hand position.
Why? Is strong single action more right hand oriented?

neil 01-02-2008 09:17 PM

IMO, the #3accumulator angle ,if it allows the right forearm to be on plane [at fix as well as impact ] -it is "correct". [I would prefer it to be on plane at adjusted address-but a lot of good players don't do it ].But some good ones do.:)

Loren 01-03-2008 12:47 AM

I knew that would be misinterpreted.

What was meant was that while the subject was #3 accumulator, a left hand function, mentioning the fact that TT used a strong single action grip was an aside having more to do with the right hand consideration than with the subject of the #3 accumulator.

And, thinking of his gripping it just under the heel pad prompted the follow on comment about not affecting rhythm until Zero is reached.


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