Air-time
 

I'm starting my own "little" thread where I can feel free to listen to my own thoughts and everybody who wants to participate are welcome to say what they want, even though I must be prepared to use this mostly as a diary of sorts - and that's also ok.

Today I have been very active on the forum. My week long "depression" is apparently over. One main reason is that I am playing with the thought of going back to Cuscowilla in March to give my golf swing a brush over before the season begins in April usually. This thought will carry me thru the winter and motivates me to work harder on "my TGM studies" and the motions involved.

Sunday I have made plans to play a 9 holes pay and play par 27 - 3 or 4 times together with a friend IF the snow just melts away the coming two days. My own course is closed but a nearby farmer has made little course - and late autum (and early spring) is his top season when all the real courses are closed and people like me come to play on his Micky Mouse course, but it is better than nothing, but it has already been cold and snowed, so that has to vanish first..

Well, this is my first contribution on my own thread... More to follow.

One of the Gang
 

Great, Air.

I'll pull up a chair, listen and chime in from time to time.

Good luck!

:thumleft:

"Air-Time"

Wow, your own place. Looks good. I like what you've done to the walls. Plaid has always been a favorite of mine too. So, ah, where do we sit? Anywhere? :laughing9

I look forward to the daily diary entries. Let's get some improvement going to talk about. How's the Basic Motion? What did Yoda do to change your Grip?

The wallpaper is egg shell colored (and washable in case some of you have bad eating manners). The chairs are comfortable enough for everyone.

I had a ok grip we agreed upon at first, but to prevent me from staying to much on the right side of the course, I now see 3 knockles instead of only 2 - that's all.

I've not yet done so much work on the basic motions, but I brush the carpet back and thru (without a ball) when I get bored from sitting by the laptop and when I get bored from all the carpet brushing (just as much a MacDonald exercise as anything else, I guess) I go back to the lap top and/or look at my notes from TGM and this site or look at the many videos Kevin has opened for us. Even more there than in the Gallery here.

As you know I am 6 hours ahead of you, so it's getting late here. But when up not so early in the morning here, I am up much earlier than you guys and can make an early entry if I feel the need.

I'm not sure how much trivialities I should make room for - probably as little as possible to keep this golf related, but I give no promises - I promise I intend to keep.

It's started to rain - and that's good news, so this awful snow can take a hike - for I'm looking forward to put my new skills to the test on Sunday. The holes are mainly about 100 -140 yards - one even shorter and one about 170y. So there is no need for a driver or woods. Mostly PW, 9 and 8. Should be some pars...

Since I already have mentioned it here (but not for my wife), it probably sounds - and is - crazy to take this long trip over to Cuscowilla only 4 months after my last visit. But my memories are so strong - everybody - not just Yoda - treated me so nice and I loved staying there. It costs almost as much as it tastes - but my only (living) child doesn't need the inheritance to be as big as possible because she and her husbond are doing just fine, so this is my treat if I want it. And of course: I still have things to learn golf wise. And since I'm not used to trusting myself regarding my golf, I'm afraid that things that worked so well a couple of weeks ago won't necessarily do so in 4-5 months time without this repetion visit. Maybe I can learn some new things as well. No time to lose in my age, I feel.. And I really need(ed) something to look forward to.

Air and Azaleas
 

Air,

You and I have corresponded, but I don't think the rest of the gang has heard yet of your plan to return next March. Your private golf cart (with the yellow 'all access' flag!) is waiting!

I know you don't want to sacrifice even a day of your Norwegian golf season, but if you could delay your trip until the second week in April, I've got a Masters badge with your name on it. After all, Augusta is only 90 miles east of Cuscowilla, and you might as well make it the journey of a lifetime!

Also, there's a good chance you'll have a 'fairway friend' to share the day with . . . Scotland's own Alex Chung! Two of my favorite guys from 'way up north' having fun 'way down south'.

Fun!


:salut:

How great is that! Cuscowilla is probably the worlds best base camp for Augusta.

Canadians Comin?
 

O.B.,

You and brother John, aka, 'The Judge', are welcome, too. This time, the Masters 'toonament' committee has assured me "no rain".

Promise!!

:eusa pray:

Goooood Morning America and the world.(and probably good night Australia).

It's the first day after my new thread has opened. What's the program today? Actually I don't have any program, so I'll make it as I go along, but I'm open for suggestions. I must start reading TGM more systematicly..

It's wonderful weather outside - rain that makes the snow melt.

I think I'll start by reading Paul Smith's interview with Yoda, as jkpassage wrote - maybe it's a good idea to read this every day. http://www.iseekgolf.com/golfinstruc...ith-lynn-blake
Then I'll do some MacDonald exercises and some brush- brush (both ways) on the carpet. Feel the mark time motion and hips moving to the right (and left) and moving the hands (by means of the hips or together with the hips?) with a touch of dragging the wet mop feeling both ways. More MacDonald: No. 1-6 will do it for now. And then some Taly training.

You are really tempting me here, but unfortunately I don't think I want to wait so long as April, even though I'll miss a wonderful opportunity that you offer me. I am more than happy to come in the middle of March and don't need to top it with something even better a month later - however tempting it sounds. But thank you for the possibility that I'm stupid enough not to take advantage of - this time... As usual I'll follow it on the TV instead - together with my memories from Oktober AND March. That's more than satisfying enough for me. Sorry.

It's a little difficult to continue my own stuff like nothing has happened. I feel bad that I have turned down Yoda's offer, but it didn't fit in with my plans and season preparations. Too bad.

I have done as I intended reading the sick of hacking interview again. It really nails it. I guess that's what the Taly is for - to help educate the hands/wrists to keep their alignments in the stroke. But even if the wrists are "tamed" there can still be an urge to hit at the ball and not so much thru it as desirable. But that has probably more to do with a 20 year old feeling that has to go - together with tendencies to steering, that is caused by wanting too much to hit the ball forward, rather than swinging down and out, coming from the inside with a closing clubface that makes the ball go straight and not to the right...?

I'm not sure what to focus on together with the basic motion. Probably the right forearm and index finger (on line and on plane) tracing the target line. And without the club with the right wrist bent at the top of the swing try to notice how the right forearm comes down without OTT preserving the flying wedges. A startdown waggle emphasizes this I guess? I hope this is correct and something to work on. I'm just talking to myself out of the top of my head...

I'd also work on my pivot if I were you. Learn to turn and swing from the feet.

The McDonald "walking" drill looks like it is made for hooking up the footwork with the upper body work.

Another good rehersal is to place a club across the shoulders, one hand at each end of the club, assume the stance and turn back and through, back and through, back and through. Into a full finish. Not swinging a club that flies off and pull your shoulders to the finish is actually an advantage in this drill. You are forced to move your hips and shoulders all the way to the finish by using muscle powered motion all the way.

Thanks, sounds like a good idea.

It occurs to me that Basic Motion includes the study of the Primary Lever and the mechanics of Hinging. So, the Left Arm moves independent of the stationary Pivot. If the Left Arm is glued to the torso, then Hinge Action isn't available.

I'm not sure what this means (big surprise). I haven't said anything about the left arm glued to the torso, have I? BTW I thought the left arm is just like a lifeless string (or a belt like Yoda shows in his Golf Channel video) which has no power and movement in itself, but is controlled and moved by the right arm and elbow in the takeawy and backstroke up to the top - but this is perhaps something else than what you are talking about? But if you want, you can try to clear this up for me.

No, you haven't said anything about gluing the Left Arm to the Chest. It's always on my mind, but you were asking for ideas on what to focus on when practicing Basic Motion, and I thought that one of the things you might consider is the arms moving independent of the Torso. Just something to focus attention on.

Creating Hinge Action -- Alternatives To Arm Motion
 

Daryl,

As presented in Stage One of the Basic Motion Curriculum (12-5-1), you are absolutely correct. However . . .

Readers may be interested to know that, in practice, the three Hinge Action Clubface Motions through Impact (Full Roll, Half Roll and No Roll) "can also be duplicated (exactly) with Wrists only, Arms only or Body only manipulations using Minor Basic Strokes" [7-10].

The Minor Basic Strokes describe the Arm Motions (or lack thereof) in the Short Shots. For example, the Peck Minor Basic Stroke (10-3-F) is a 'Wrist-Action only' Stroke, i.e., no Arm Swing. Lacking the Arm Motion to provide the Hinging Action, it requires a different Grip Type (10-2-D for Angled and Vertical Hinging versus 10-2-B for Horizontal Hinging).

Another Minor Basic Stroke that features 'no Arm Swing' is Paw (10-3-H). The polar opposite of Peck, this Stroke has zero Wrist Action and moves the Club only by 'rocking' the Body. Specifically, the player uses the Rotated Shoulder Turn (10-13-C) to create either Vertical or Angled Hinging.

:salut:

Fine. I'm glad for every contribution. Thanks.

Note to myself:
I intend to have 2000 posts by August 3 - one year since I became a member..

Maybe I can borrow something from the hacker interview to shed light on this question:

Q: Is there a best way to apply these principles?

A: You bet. Start with the short shots, the little chips and pitches. Thousands of them. Here is where you learn the basics of grip, stance, posture, the stationary head, the straight left arm and the bending right arm, the right forearm position and right triceps extension, tracing the line, the impact hands location and clubshaft forward lean, and most of all, the motion of the hands through impact.

Here is where you rid yourself once and for all of the old ‘bending left wrist, flattening right wrist’ throwing motion at the ball. And you do it by concentrating on keeping the left wrist flat and accepting nothing less until it is. Only when you’ve mastered the flat left wrist should you expand the program to include the full pivot strokes. That’s because, without it, nothing else works very well, and more information means only more confusion.

Great idea and a great thread Air. It looks like it is already a wonderful thread on Basic Motion.
I've been using Basic Motion as a platform for discovery. I can focus on just one aspect for as long as I want right in my own yard or basement without paying 15 bucks for range balls.
Recently, while tossing tennis balls in the yard for my dog Henry, I discovered basic motion striking tennis balls with a SW. It allowed me to exagerate the down motion a bit which then allowed me to exagerate my pressure points. I am soon going to do the same to isolate and hopefully internalise the accumulators.
I suggest giving the tennis balls a try. After my first session with those things my ball striking improved and has steadily improved from there.
Geez, this TGM stuff is fun.

I'm willing to try most everything. But isn't it strange to hit such big balls? (Do you use white tennis balls or the yellow ones?)

Since they are Henry's tennis balls they are his favorite color, the color of dirt.
As for being large, that's the point. It helps to visualize the angle of attack on the ball. I like to think of it as at 2:00 o'clock with the top of the ball being 12:00 and the bottom being 6:00.
I spent over 50 years being a scooper. I need things like this.

The part about the color was just for fun. White golfballs you know. But covered with dirt - that should also work.

After a random sweep I have found some oldies, but goodies that I want to have copies of in my thread:

Originally Posted by BerntR
Question:

What are the quality criteria as far as ball striking goes in basic motion?

I try to approach this as I would approach the short game. Solid ball contact, trajectory & distance control. With proper stroke execution. Just want to know if I have the right focus here. Maybe I should just pay attention to alignments an disregard the result?
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Start with 3-F-5.

I like the "maybe I should" part...forget the ball.

Is my Left Wrist Flat?
Am I pointing at the Plane Line?
Did I arrive at the Both Arms Straight Position?

When the Right Forearm is placed ON Plane at Fix, it gives you a new Right Shoulder Location. If the Right Shoulder starts too high, as in 99.999999999 percent of golfers, you run out of Right Arm before you get to the ball. Most start with a straight Right Arm at Address and return to Impact with a straight Right Arm. It's really not powerful.


Hold the Right Forearm and Clubshaft in-line with a Bent Right Wrist on a horizontal Plane. Look at that relationship in the mirror, and then lower the Right Arm and club to the ball.

The best-case scenario is a video camera, a computer with software, and a monitor near the ball. This would eliminate the mirror parallax. In the mirror, the eyes are off Plane, making it difficult to draw conclusions.

YodasLuke.
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Originally Posted by EdZ Clubface control. I don't care if you use your elbow or your toes to hold the club, if you impact the ball, from impact to separation, there is a hinge action - the type of action determines the efficiency of compression.

Closing only - horizontal
Closing and layback - angled
layback only - vertical
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1) Good to have a target. You can do wonders for your short game while working on your impact alignments.

2) I like to start with the Taly to make sure I am using the proper alignments, then recheck as needed.

3) I like to use my sand wedge, but it's your choice. Just make sure it is never so flat a loft that you feel you have to help it in the air to fly onto the target you have chosen.

4) In that case I would do a combination of just working structure on the range, along with going out on the course with 3 or 4 balls as traffic allows.

Kevin
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I use as my examples LB own work.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...urriculum.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...ic-Motion.html

LB aquired motion

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...ed-Motion.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...est-Entry.html

The Bear
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There is often some confusion because the entire section 12-5 is labelled the "Basic Motion Curriculum" and includes 12-5-1 Stage One . Basic Motion. 12-5-2 Stage Two. Acquired Motion. 12-5-3 Stage Three. Total Motion. You can see the problem there with people referring to the whole curriculum as "Basic Motion". Those videos you listed are for the most part displaying some work in 12-5-2 Stage Two, Acquired Motion.

In 12-5-1 Stage One, Basic Motion , the list is very specific and says amongst other things, " 2 feet back and 2 through" . First with a short iron and then with a putter. It doesnt get any more Basic than that does it. Were talking about about putt here and not a very long one even.
O.B.Left
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Hinge Action is defined by the book as:
Holding the Flat Left Wrist Vertical to one of the basic planes will impart the same motion to the clubface.

Those motions are
closing-horizontal hinge
layingback-vertical hinge
or closing and layingback angled hinge

This is exacly what's happening in basic motion....the travel of the clubhead is the same when power accumulator 3 is zeroed out, but the hinge action can vary for the shot at hand.
bray
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There are two things you must learn to do. First, you must learn to keep your Left Wrist Flat. You say you are doing that. Look, look LOOK to make sure. Second, you must learn to swing through the Ball and not at the Ball. Swinging at the Ball is 'Hacking the Ball' and that produces only Hackers.

Here's how to get started. Take your normal grip -- hopefully it is a Strong Single Action per 10-2-B -- and a Square Stance. Be sure that the Stance is actually parallel to the Target Line. Put a Club down and check it out. There's a very good chance you are aimed to the right.

Now start the Club swinging continuously over the top of the Ball as if you were going to hit a short Chip Shot. No more than three feet back and three feet through. Back and through and back and through and back and through. Continuous motion. Don't Cock your Wrists. Instead, just Turn and Roll your Left Forearm as you swing your Flat Left Wrist back and through and back and through. Turn and Roll and Turn and Roll and Turn and Roll and Turn and Roll. It is the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist that gets the Club through Impact, not the Flattening of the Right Wrist. Please read that last sentence again. And one more time. Thank you.

As you continue this motion, be aware of the pressure created in the right forefinger as you swing down and through and down and though and down and through. Continue to be aware of that pressure and keep it 'pointed' at the Straight Target Line as you swing back and through and back and through. Turning and Rolling and Turning and Rolling. Keep pointing at the Line, 'Tracing' it with the Pressure in your Right Forefinger as you Turn and Roll and Turn and Roll the Flat Left Wrist. On each Downstroke, be very aware of theRight Hand Tracing and the Left Hand Rolling.

Now lower the Club behind the Ball and make the exact same Motion away from the Ball and through it. The Ball will go straight. If it did not, first make sure that you properly 'Traced' the Line. If you did not, try again. If you did and the Ball went to the right, Roll more. If it went to the left, Roll less.

Repeat until satisfied.

Yoda
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Originally Posted by Cookjam

Yoda,
Could you give a little explaination of the sentence at the top of this section? It reads "Zero out the pivot, Shoulder Turn and Accumulator #3".

In addition, I see 12-5-1 as a syllabus for an exercise lesson. Is this true? There are 22 components, are they introduced one at a time during your practice?

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It means don't move your Body -- Shoulders included -- and keep the Left Arm and Clubshaft in a straight line -- either by Gripping the Club in the Cup of the Left Hand or by using a Reverse Wrist Cock (FVU) per 6-B-3-B, as you move the Club back and through the Ball continuously, two feet in both directions.

This first stage of the Basic Motion Curriculum can indeed serve "as a syllabus for an exercise lesson." But it is so much more. In fact, it is no exaggeration to state that it is the Foundation of the Golf Stroke.

Finally, Homer's notes for a revised 7th Edition added a new first sentence for each of the three stages, and I suggest you write them into your book:

12-5-1.

"This stage concerns mainly the Basic Body Positions and Basic Power Package Component Alignments and Arm Motion Power Accumulators."

12-5-2.

"This stage introduces Body Motion and the Alignments and relations of the Hand Action Power Accumulators of the Power Package."

12-5-3.

"This stage should move slowly toward unrestricted motion but not to Full Power even with Long Irons and Woods. This stage is for the perfection of execution prior to Full Power."

Do not underestimate the benefit of each of these three stages and the skill that their progressive mastery will produce. They are your keys to a lifetime of Better Golf!
Yoda
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The 'Two feet past the Ball' of Stage One of the Basic Motion Curriculum is the Follow-Through of Stroke Section 11. So, make sure you reach this point. If you can't, it's because you have not 'pre-positioned' your Right Shoulder (down On Plane) to allow a Follow-Through of this length. If not, then do so.

I also suggest 'Arms separate' practice. Focus on your Flat Left Wrist with the Left Arm motion and the Bent Right Wrist with your Right Arm motion. Then, put them together, and as you go through the Ball, make sure there is absolutely zero interruption in your Rhythmic Motion through Impact. Remember, you swing through the Ball, not at the Ball. The Basic Drill is without a Ball and with continuous 'back and through' and 'back and through' and 'back and through' motion. Periodically, stop at the end of the Stroke, and look, Look LOOK to verify that your Wrist Alignments have been maintained. Then, resume the 'back and through' continuous motion. This is the only Train out of Hackerville.

Finally, as you are learning, the 'sound' of Impact is diagnostic. A true 'Three Dimensional' Impact will sound like hitting a stone -- especially with these Basic Motion Chips and even with Putts. The more 'mushy' the sound, the greater the Compression Leakage.

You're on the right track now. Stay with it.
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You are wise to use the Basic Motion Curriculum (12-5-0) to assemble
your G.O.L.F. Stroke. Homer Kelley was very proud of it and felt it would one
day become, in his words, "more popular than the book itself."
Remember, the purpose of the Curriculum is best served if the Motion is kept
continuous, i.e., back-and-through and back-and-through and back-and-through,
as you integrate each Component. Use 'breaks' in the process to rehearse the
Address Routines of 3-F-5 and 2-J-1.

You have observed that Pressure Point #1 is not listed in the Curriculum. Nor
is Pressure Point #4. However, you will find Accumulator #1
(the Right Arm) and Accumulator #4 (the Left Arm) as Items #12 and #9
respectively in Stage One (the Basic Motion per 12-5-1). The
Accumulators are normally actuated by their "same numbered"
Pressure Points (7-11). So, when the Study References are given to 6-B-1
(Power Accumulator #1) and 6-B-4 (Power Accumulator #4), the references to
Pressure Points #1 (10-11-0-1) and #4 (10-11-0-4) are implied.


As stated in 12-5-0, the items in each of the Three Stages are meant to be
interpreted per the Stroke Patterns of 12-1-0 (Hitting) and 12-2-0
(Swinging). In other words, if you are learning to Hit, then the Right
Arm becomes active, and Pressure Point #1 becomes its Direct Drive. If you
are learning to Swing, then the Left Arm becomes Active, and
Pressure Point #4 becomes the Direct
Drive.


Pressure Points #2 and #3 are listed (as Items #14 and #15 in 12-5-1).
Their associated Power Accumulators (#2 and #3) are not introduced into the
Curriculum until Stage 2 (the Acquired Motion per 12-5-2). The Swinger
uses Pressure Point #2 to drive the #2 Accumulator -- the Wristcock -- but
normally only as actuated by Centrifugal Force. The Hitter drives the #2
Accumulator with Right Arm Thrust (2-P) using either Pressure Points #1 or
#3. Finally, the Clubhead Lag must be assigned to one of the employed
Pressure Points, and this is almost always #3. For both Hitters and Swingers,
this constitutes the Indirect Drive of the Club through Impact.
Yoda

It's often difficult to find what you want when searching because there is so much. I'll continue to build up my own archive of a more basic and simple nature. Any suggestions? Just post them if you like them. (But not the more heavy stuff please).

I guess it is kind of childish, but some were cheering me on to keep my posting score up. I lost some ground during my "depression", but the last few days I've probably been a little "manic" and posted like a mad man. Well, mission accomplished. I'm now on top for the daily average: 4,12 to Yoda's 4,02 - but who's counting..? I'll try to slow down now, if not, there must be something wrong after all..!!??
Now I can rest on my laurels.

Putting
 

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7736.html
Hungry Bear #2

With your palms facing each other, on the putter, turn your right hand 45* clockwise (turned) and roll your left hand 45* counterclockwise (rolled).

Your grip should now be hard to bend in any direction so everything moves as a assembly. The stroke is made by moving your shoulders.

Now as a next step. Your right hand fingers are now in front (closest the hole) and your left hand fingers are behind (away from the hole.)

Pull the backstroke with the right hand and pull the forward stroke with the left hand. For many, pulling is much smother than pushing.

You may also want a reverse overlap on the left index finger.
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Originally Posted by bgolfing View Post

Brian has the reputation as being one of the best putters on tour. Any insight on what he works on?
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Saturday Nov 13.
 

New day.
The snow has melted, so it should be set for play tomorrow. When wearing so much clothes the swing will be somewhat restricted, so that makes it even more important to try and make the swing so smooth and easy as possible. Easy to say, for that is always a challenge, but it's well worth some consideration.

I'll copy my notes from Cuscowilla, so I can review what I have to focus on.


From my notes:
-The MacDonald exercises were perhaps the most important element in getting me a brand new swing. The brush - brush motion back and thru and how the knees and hips work is basic. That also means that I now will be lifting the left heel 1-2 in. off the ground in my (longer) shots.

-I had to leave my belief of being a hitter - and that meant that the adjusted address position has come in instead of impact fix at address.

-There was a lot of aiming with sticks at the baseline (the magic right forearm and flying wedges?)
-We did some Taly training. Let the arms and hands do the work, not the wrists.
-Do not waggle over the ball with the wrists only - waggle both flying wedges just like when training with the Taly.
-Then learning the finish. The arrow thru the ears (shaft) must be at right angles to the baseline, not pointing backwards to the right of it.
-A stronger 3 knuckles grip.
-Learning to have my left shoulder pointing more to the right at set up.
-In my case it's advisable to have a somewhat closed stance to the baseline.
-High hands, but avoiding to have the left wrist uncocked at address.
-Don't just do this with the longer clubs, but give yourself space also on the shorter shots with a wedge.
-The right arm bent with a limber right elbow - not sticking out too much.
-Learn to drag the wet mop in both directions, so that the takeaway also has its lag in the mark time rhythm of the MacDonald exercises/brush- brush technique.
-At impact let the shoulders be square to the target line instead of moving to the left. Right shoulder lower than the left.
-Then the tricky part for me: The rolling of the left arm in the downswing/thru stroke.
-The importance of the last 3 fingers of the left hand and downtoning the right index finger.
-A better position at the top.
-The down stroke waggle
-A lot of club throwing.(real throwing of clubs on to the range - I'm pretty good at it)
-How to start down.
-Learning to kick in the right knee in the downstroke/thru stroke to get the ball in a better path and to get the weight a lot more into my left side than I have been doing.This is especially important for me because I had problems performing the left hip bump.
-A somewhat more rounded backstroke.
-Trying to avoid hitting straight down the target line but have a feeling of going a little accross it from in -to out (the delivery line) - just the opposite way that I had always done (avoid OTT, out-to-in)
-Then extensor action and a lot training: shot after shot with different clubs - a lot of drives. And corrections and comments when I didn't get it right and trying to do it more and more correctly.
-Keep the head stationary. Don't let it be drawn to the right when doing extensor action.
-With the driver the ball is more forward than I was used to. Peg the ball up so that half the ball is over the head of the driver on the ground.
-Also chipping and pitching. The short bread and butter shot, cut shots, knock down shots, bunker shots, putting.
-If the divots are too deep - move the ball more forward in the stance.
-And a geometrical slideshow and some practical shot making on the course.

Air,

Here is a great old post from YODA about Brian's putting along with some pictures he posted. Really good stuff! ...


I really learned the importance of keeping both arms on the same plane as the shaft from these pictures.

Finish STRONG Brian!

Air,

I'm thrilled to see your progress, and really enjoy your posts on what you are working on. I wish we all possessed your wonderful work ethic and dedication to improving!

Kevin

Blushing...

Don't worry. He's just fishing for doughnuts.

We are not exactly renowned for our doughnuts, so he is barking up the wrong tree.

No donuts? Even Russia and Northern China have freaking donuts! :) :) :)

Kevin

There's an old tradition back in the times when the housewifes made 7 different kinds (20-30 of each) of cookies before Christmas (some still do) - and one of them has the name "fattig mann" which literally means "poor man". I never liked them. I guess they have what you want in a patisserie (is that the word?), but I haven't looked.

Wrong answer. The one that looks like a donut is called "smultring" - (= "lard ring") - nevermind.

Thank you. That fits nicely in with what I am working on.

How about some yulekakka (sp?) or reasonable facsimile?

Julekake. means Christmas cake, but it's not typical for only for the Christmas season any more. It can look like a bread or a giant bun.

Club Throwing
 

Let's get back to golf.

I'm thinking of the actual throwing of golf clubs and the feelings incorporated. Coming OTT seems to be out of the question. Why is that? That means that coming in low(er) from the inside is natural in this kind of activity? And keeping the club behind the hands i.e. sustaining the lag? How identical to the real downstroke is this? It feels like the weight shift into the left foot and side is much more pronounced, keeping the back to the target longer and maybe even making a little pause at the top before the downstroke begins. Are these relevant feelings/motions well worth holding on to?