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sd6396 01-03-2010 01:23 AM

Swinger using impact fixed
 
I'm new to the TGM October 2009. After seeing Yoda on Utube I became a convert.

Please forgive me if I've asked this question in the wrong forum or if my language isn't precise. I'm a swinger and have recently experimenting with impact fixed address position (while swing) and have had great results. On the back stroke, my right wrist remains on plane and is properly bent.

Will this routine lead to problems that I'm unable to foresee with my lack of TGM experience?

I'm aware of "sweep" and have also been using that technique.

I appreciate any insights. Thanks in advance.
SW

KevCarter 01-03-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sd6396 (Post 70323)
I'm new to the TGM October 2009. After seeing Yoda on Utube I became a convert.

Please forgive me if I've asked this question in the wrong forum or if my language isn't precise. I'm a swinger and have recently experimenting with impact fixed address position (while swing) and have had great results. On the back stroke, my right wrist remains on plane and is properly bent.

Will this routine lead to problems that I'm unable to foresee with my lack of TGM experience?

I'm aware of "sweep" and have also been using that technique.

I appreciate any insights. Thanks in advance.
SW

Welcome SW!

The beauty of TGM is you may do whatever works for you. I am a hitter rather than swinger, and I haven't been around TGM long enough to know if you will fall into any snares with your procedure, but in my opinion, if it is working, do it! Keep experimenting with different components, thats how we learn. Have some fun with the journey!

I hope you are taking advantage of all the videos in the GALLERY here at LBG. There is so much to learn in there. Make sure to watch the Colin Neeman series. When you want to go deeper, "Alignment Golf" is priceless, worth every penny!

Kevin

BCGolf 01-03-2010 04:52 PM

Quick Fix
 
SW
I agree with Kevin. The great thing about The Golfing Machine is that you can build a swing with whatever variations you prefer. Please make sure that all of the component variations in your stroke pattern match.
A main difference in Standard and Impact address is the amount of Lag you are setting up at address. Standard Address creates more lag at start up and Impact address creates less. Experiment and find out which works best for you.
Bill

O.B.Left 01-03-2010 05:12 PM

Id agree with all of the above and add that a lot of swingers start from Fix, if only for shorter shots.

I hit from Adjusted on longer shots, so to each their own.

sd6396 01-03-2010 09:57 PM

Swinger using fixed address
 
Kevin,
Thanks for your encouragement! TGM is wonderful and the members of the forum make the system even better, as they are willing to share their thoughts and insights.

I have seen the Colin video. I recently purchased Alignment Golf and can't watch it enough.

Thanks
sd6396

sd6396 01-03-2010 10:01 PM

Swinger using impact fixed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BCGolf (Post 70328)
SW
I agree with Kevin. The great thing about The Golfing Machine is that you can build a swing with whatever variations you prefer. Please make sure that all of the component variations in your stroke pattern match.
A main difference in Standard and Impact address is the amount of Lag you are setting up at address. Standard Address creates more lag at start up and Impact address creates less. Experiment and find out which works best for you.
Bill

Thanks Bill.

sd6396 01-03-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 70329)
Id agree with all of the above and add that a lot of swingers start from Fix, if only for shorter shots.

I hit from Adjusted on longer shots, so to each their own.

OB Left,
I hadn't thought about varing the address for different shots! Beautiful...thanks!

O.B.Left 01-03-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sd6396 (Post 70340)
OB Left,
I hadn't thought about varing the address for different shots! Beautiful...thanks!


For a lot swingers those really short ones dont give them enough time to start at adjusted with a bent left, flat right and get to a flat left, bent right impact hands condition on the backswing.

Although for short shots from adjusted, Extensor Action Takeaway with the E.A, at the #3pp instead of at the #1pp can help to snap the hands into their impact conditions. But Im probably complicating things here though and you dont see that as often for the short ones anymore.

Like the others guys are saying though for fuller shots the takeaway is all about what you prefer feel wise.............carry back from Fix or a little lagging from Adjusted. Id say a lot of swingers use Fix up to the mid irons even. Play around with it. Try your driver from Adjusted and get the feeling of Lag going early with a "Lagging Takeaway" and see how it goes for you. As if you were hitting an impact bag on your backswing. Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan style. Just let momentum do its thing and get the hands to their impact condition.

EdZ 01-04-2010 11:05 AM

The key issue with a swinger starting from fix is to make sure you stay 'on line' and 'up plane'. The impact fix start can lead to taking the club too inside and flat.

It can also make the startup swivel a bit tougher to keep on plane.

Angled hinge swingers don't need to worry about that though, and grip type plays a role.

dodger 01-04-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 70353)
The key issue with a swinger starting from fix is to make sure you stay 'on line' and 'up plane'. The impact fix start can lead to taking the club too inside and flat.

It can also make the startup swivel a bit tougher to keep on plane.

Angled hinge swingers don't need to worry about that though, and grip type plays a role.

This is an important, under emphasized issue. If you lay it off in the backswing, impact address encourages more layoff. It really requires a frozen right wrist in the backswing. If you are swinging, it is tough to get the momentum on longer shots with impact address. It is easier to move into an alignment than start in one and maintain it throughout the swing, at least if you are attempting a swinging motion. Please note that the above is only based on what I have found in my own swing.

sd6396 01-04-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 70341)
For a lot swingers those really short ones dont give them enough time to start at adjusted with a bent left, flat right and get to a flat left, bent right impact hands condition on the backswing.

Although for short shots from adjusted, Extensor Action Takeaway with the E.A, at the #3pp instead of at the #1pp can help to snap the hands into their impact conditions. But Im probably complicating things here though and you dont see that as often for the short ones anymore.

Like the others guys are saying though for fuller shots the takeaway is all about what you prefer feel wise.............carry back from Fix or a little lagging from Adjusted. Id say a lot of swingers use Fix up to the mid irons even. Play around with it. Try your driver from Adjusted and get the feeling of Lag going early with a "Lagging Takeaway" and see how it goes for you. As if you were hitting an impact bag on your backswing. Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan style. Just let momentum do its thing and get the hands to their impact condition.

The impact bag reference sounds like it might create a wonderful sensory feel for "lagging takaway". I plan to give a try and keep experimenting. Thanks.


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