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brownman 11-15-2009 09:40 AM

What is happening
 
As the title suggests is exactly my question,due to medical and other reasons I been restricted to short iron practice only.
Now,heres the thing,one day last week,I for some unknown reason began "chipping " with the feeling of using the R/wrist to "uncock" my L/wrist,I hope you can follow this.....the R /wrist doesnt flatten out ,but feels as if Im uncocking my bent and level R/wrist down into the ground.

I played yesterday and tried this "method"or "feel" in all my shots including driver,I have never hit the ball so well and so consistant,my irons were like arrows and 3 wood was the best Ive ever struck,the only drawback was in my driving,they were very straight but with a definite loss of distance...10-20 yds on most.
Can someone explain whats happening there,this I might add using swingers pattern,Im not complaining as I shot a 1 over par round.
Thanks in advance:salut:

Daryl 11-15-2009 09:45 AM

Are you saying that while maintaining a Bent and Level right wrist, that you used a clockwise rotation of the right forearm or hand at release to Uncock the left wrist?

If so, I can explain the geometry and I can tell you why you're losing distance on your drives.

brownman 11-15-2009 09:58 AM

Thanks Daryl,no,Im not sure exactly whats happening,its a feeling that Im driving down deep with the R/wrist going down deeper into the ground,how can I say,its a feeling that im driving my R/forearm down to an aiming point except I dont have A/point in my minds eye,perhaps another way of looking at it is ...my R wrist is assisting my FLW without my L/wrist doing anything specific....hard to follow eh...Im sorry its the only I can explain it...cheers

jerry1967 11-15-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 68983)
Are you saying that while maintaining a Bent and Level right wrist, that you used a clockwise rotation of the right forearm or hand at release to Uncock the left wrist?

If so, I can explain the geometry and I can tell you why you're losing distance on your drives.

Please explain why he is losing distance!

Daryl 11-15-2009 10:01 AM

Get Video. If you think it helps that much, then get to know the mechanics. I'd like to know them too.

Sad thing about feel is that they're here today but gone tomorrow. Mechanics are forever. Golf is fun when you can play on feel.

Daryl 11-15-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 68987)
Please explain why he is losing distance!

2 Accumulator Swing. Swingers angled hinge. But he said no to my question so I haven't a clue.

O.B.Left 11-15-2009 01:36 PM

Brownman

Do you feel like you are pushing down on the top of the shaft (left wrist uncocking) with the right hand or more specifically the knuckle at the base of the right index finger? The #3 pp in the knuckle. This could be done without unbending the right hand with a right elbow extension. A Right Arm Throw of sorts, or an X procedure maybe. It provides the DOWN of a Left Wrist Throw, Release Trigger but via the Right Elbow.

brownman 11-15-2009 09:28 PM

thanks ob,yeah,the R/ wrist feels like its doing the work that the uncocking L/wrist should be doing,it seems as if its assisting my R/wrist staying in the bent position and not allowing it to flatten out,in saying that,Im also able to roll the lever assembly over post impact with relative ease.
This is something that has sort of happened by itself,Daryl is very right in making me aware that "feelings" are a day to day thing.Also,you are right,I do feel PP#3 in index knuckle.
Thank again

O.B.Left 11-15-2009 10:48 PM

Do you feel your right elbow straightening is doing the left left wrist uncocking?

brownman 11-16-2009 02:42 AM

yes O-B I do, a bit like hitters feel to me,yet I am reaching release ala pitch elbow etc,this thing Im doing seems to be just prior to impact through to both arms straight.

O.B.Left 11-16-2009 07:15 PM

Is the left hand turned to plane? Id imagine it must be if you feel like your approaching a pitch elbow. In other words is the uncocking of the left wrist on plane? And finally is the release Sequenced or Simultaneous? That is a tough one to notice maybe.

brownman 11-16-2009 09:20 PM

Good pick-ups O-B,I would like to think all is right plane-wise,your right-on the money with release as Im unsure,I would think by what Im feeling here that release is simultaneous,but in saying that,my feeling of R/wrist into impact would qualify for sequenced.........Hm m m m..looking closer now at this diagnostic view,could that R/wrist be throwing cubshaft out of alignment at the vital time due to longer shaft as I do normally have ball a tad further in stance with driver????

O.B.Left 11-16-2009 11:51 PM

So your only losing distance with the driver? Over acceleration, early release, bigger pulley wheel it could be anything.

Id take some film and send it to Luke. He is the expert on such things.

brownman 11-17-2009 05:26 AM

Thanks O-B,I will do just that in the very near future,again thanks for your very informative input...cheers BM

brownman 11-23-2009 08:56 AM

found this
 
found this while whilst surfing archives,is this the same as what I was trying to describe

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/newre...ewreply&p=5027

O.B.Left 11-23-2009 06:05 PM

I dunno, there may be some terminology issues there but you can only "uncock the right wrist" if you have cocked it in the first place which would destroy the RFFW. Im talking vertical right hand cocking not bending. Holding on to a cocked left wrist is Steering , fore right. Right hand bend is the other side of the flat left wrist so it isnt released or whatever.

I was thinking you were talking about your right elbow straightening and uncocking the left wrist but maybe Im wrong. Do you cock the right wrist UP , vertically?

brownman 11-23-2009 06:21 PM

No,not as far as I know O-B,thats the one thing I have trained out of my system,now last week,I never concentrated on using R/ wrist cocking down at all,still hit the ball well.....Im not going to use it until Im aware of whats going on with it.....maybe only in practice.....dont like going against homers work

O.B.Left 11-24-2009 01:17 AM

What ever it is you are doing it provides more DOWN and when traveling an Inclined Plane that means OUT too. Good things.

Please though, dont even goof with cocking your right wrist up, it isnt needed and destroys the RFFW.

EdZ 11-24-2009 03:56 PM

I don't know that I follow all of what you are describing, but it sounds like you are keeping your bent right wrist and getting to an auto snap release, pitch elbow. The only reason I would guess you are giving up some distance is by focusing on the bent right wrist, your release isn't as free as it might otherwise be.

Try a focus on aiming point with your driver, it may free things up a bit and get much more distance.

12 piece bucket 11-24-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brownman (Post 69020)
yes O-B I do, a bit like hitters feel to me,yet I am reaching release ala pitch elbow etc,this thing Im doing seems to be just prior to impact through to both arms straight.

You gotta watch how "pitchy" you get with the right elbow. If you DON'T UNbend your right arm your hands are going to be out way to far away from you . . . so you have "disrupted the radius" so to get to the ball all you will have left is #2 firing and probably your right wrist UNCOCKING. You don't have no #3 left because your hands get to far OUT.

Film your swing from down the line . . . note where your hands are at address . . . How far out are they at impact? If the are OUT away from where they were at address you probably ARE uncocking to get to the ball.

What are your misses doing? Pushes and snipe hooks?


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