Face balance putter vs, heel toe
 

Woud it make sense that a face balanced putter would work better with angled or vertical hinging, while using a more toe heavy, answer style, putter be more usful with horizontal hinging.Would it still work as well with angled hinging?

How 'bout a "heel drop" putter for Vertical Hinging? The Backassward putter or whatever.

Putting is to individual to try and make it hard by thinking of angles. Putting is pretty easy when you can roll the ball, the problem most have is we play on slow greens and have to hit the putts which give/causes skid, bounce, and face angle problems. Make it simple, if you putted with a sledge hammer on slow greens you would not have much trouble getting it to the hole, or with break only issue would be face control. The longer the stroke and the harder the hit the less chance you have of making the putt.

I worked with a top player today on the PGA Tour on his putting for 1 1/2 hours and made it so simple for him that he went from insane, to I think I can win this week! Putter is one of the only clubs in the bag you have total control of the outcome, minus the unseen spike mark or pitch.

Thnaks,
BurleyGolf-

Burley, please elaborate on what you worked on sounds interesting!

AHH! What I call the majic of the right elbow. Controls everything in the putting stroke.

Push Basic
 

Push basic stroke?

push basic
 

I do use a puch basic stroke. I tried switching to a center shafted two ball after a couple years with a TP Mills blade, and had terrible results outside of ten feet.

I think, for me at least, the center shaft makes it difficult to feel the sweet spot plane especially on lag putts where some number 3 acumulator is needed.

I have yet to try a heel shafted face balanced putter. It would seem that the face balanced putter would be more natural with the push basic stroke, but I personally have more succes with the toe heavy putter.

items for consideration
 

Is this similar to the majic of the right forarm in the golf machine?
What are the key things you look for when examining a putting stroke, and helping players roll the ball more consistently?
Do you have any keys or drills you have your guys focus on to improve their strokes, and their putting?

If you watch Tiger he practices with his right hand only keeping the elbow connected to his side. This helps Tiger release the putter, Tiger actually closes the putter face after impact "BECAUSE" he aims right of his intended target a little. Most of don't and we release the club with the putter face staying square to our line. The right elbow does a coulple of things; it controls the speed, and face angle. Lot of times you see guys with their hands away from the body and they have to control the putter with the right forearm. When you minipulate the forearm you have a tendency to rotate instead of rock the shoulders, Decell on short putts, and cut with the face. The right elbow helps control all of these things.

Thanks,
BurleyGolf-

Burley

Are you saying Tiger aims the face right of the target? I could see his clubhead path as being a little right of the target for a ball struck slightly back of low point. Is this what you mean?

What ever it is he does he sure gets a nice roll on it.

Yes, I saw the data once I do not remeber the exact numbers but Tiger aims right of his intended line, and release's the club face to compensate this. Tiger Woods is the best green reader on the planet, and can will the ball in the hole when needed "Clutch Putter".. His stroke is not the best out there, but it is the best for him. That is proof that you don't have to do it perfect to get the job done. David Orr who is a TGM guy had told me about why Tiger released the putte (Toe Closes after impact).. Every one is not going to putt the same way and they are not going to release the club the same way, but all the greats have a connected right elbow. Jackie Burke told me along time ago when I was a Jr. Golfer the right hand is the piston and the right elbow connected is the stabilizer for the piston, if that stabilzer is not connect that piston can push where ever it wants to go out of your control.

Thanks,
BurleyGolf-

So should we strive to keep our elbow against our side? How does it move as the shoulders rock, or in the case of the push basic or piston stroke how does it stay there as the elbow folds?

I might have been mis-leading or not as clear as I should have been!!! You are not going to keep the elbow drove to the body or cemmented, unless you are practicing with one arm. The elbow is going to stay close but have room to move against the body with out uncomfortable pressure of having it glued to your side. The visual I give is you should let it follow the curve of the stomach/side, kind of like the stories of Hogan wearing a hole out in his sweater fromt the right elbow in his full swing. You are doing the same in your putting stroke from the arm rubbing your side.

Thanks,
BurleyGolf-

piston stroke
 

A couple of keys to a piston-style, or push basic stroke is to pre-set the right shoulder down plane for a precision follow through and keep said shoulder motionless. It is a hitting stroke so the right shoulder serves as a backstop for the straightening right elbow. I had very little success with the push basic stroke because I could not control the pace of my putts very well...until Yoda taught me (Alignment Golf) to pre-set the right shoulder further down plane in order to achieve a "deeper" follow through and visa versa on shorter putts etc.

Face Balance vs. Impact Balance
 

Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that there were two kinds of "balanced putters".

1. Face Balanced (Heel-Toe) "Anser"
2. Impact Balanced (Perimeter weighted). "the Odyssey-white hot,two ball"

There probably exists every kind in between too.
I like putting with my right elbow glued to my side and I like the “Push Basic” stroke. I’ve had days when I couldn’t miss a putt with either one and days when I could make a putt with either one.

Yes face balanced is a twoball type, and heel toe is like an answer. The easiest way to see this is to balance the shaft on your finger, and see if the toe hangs down towards the ground, then it is heel toe. If the clubface is looking at the sky, then you have a face balanced putter