Transfer of Power in Hands
 

As I am mad in the evil work shop trying to create the monster of all swings, I am finding that my relationship with feel to the body is increasing.. Its Alive!
Well, today I had been working on my posture through impact with the hold, release, and clip the dogs tail drill. I noticed that I was having two different feels between the great struck golf balls and the balls that were missing target a little. What I found is; I was transferring power back to my left hand on the down swing, so, I ask myself; self! is this correct? Well much to my amazement and the face the solid on line shot was what I wanted, I dug deep into the knowledge base to figure out how to achieve the correctness of what I had a great feel with. I remembered LB talking about the "NERD" left and knew dang well, I was on the right path. One would think that there needs to be level power in both hands, but in truth there is, in a weird science way that is above my educational level. What I found is that if I took it back with the right and back to the aiming point with the right, the clearing of the left side gave the left hand stability with out physically trying to use it. So, to stick with the thread category, you have to mentally train the right hand to be the performer. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me..

Burley, what is clip the dogs tail drill?

Thanks for putting that into words I hope I can understand.
I have had humungous problems with getting off plane by having the dreaded "heavy head," but I think I have found if I take the club away focusing on extensor action with the right hand pulling the left back, I stay on plane much better.
I need to spend some time getting used to what seems to be more right hand/arm in the swing than I have had since I was about 12 (I' 63 now).

Old Bad Advice
 

I agree with you guys...

I was always around guys who could play when I was a kid. My memories of guys hitting a bad shot and slapping their right hand. Can't use your right hand. Keep the right hand out of it. It's a left handed game. Damn right hand. Blah, blah, blah...

Enter the "Magic of the Right Forearm" and it's a brave, wonderful new world. I'm LOVING it!!!

Kevin

I don't want to say I am 100% right on this drill but I believe that the way Ben Dole is telling the man on the video this is the only way this drill could be done. Ben Dole talks to the guy about a towel in his back side and thats about it, then he tells him to remeber hold the dogs tail let it go and clip the dogs tail. What I believe to be right and it feels good is; on the back swing let the thighs try to kinda squeez, and coming down they open kinda like Sam Snead (FEEL), then at impact clip the dogs tail by (feeling like you are going to chop that sucker off with your knees. What the last does is get the left hip moving back and the right foot rolling in. Great drill if i've got it right, I seem to hit it much better this way with less effort, and stay in my posture.

Thanks,
BurleyGolf-

catch the dog's tail
 

Ben told me to make believe I had a dog between my legs at address. Squeeze the dog on the backswing. then sit down and when the knees separate the dog and start to run away. Then you had to catch the dog by the tail before it got away at followthru. Ben would hold a towel between you legs and expected you to be squeezing the towel so tightly at finish he couldn't pull it out. This even applied to short shots.

Golf's "unique move" according to Homer Kelley and the reason good athletes cant take their talents from other sports to golf necessarily is this:
the right arm extends through impact, with the right hand held bent (in its impact fix determined degree of bend, depending on ball position etc). That last bit in brackets by me, sorry.

This unique move can be done actively by the right arm (hitting) or passively by the swingers throwout of the left arm and club via the pivot. Either way the pressure points and therefore the swing forces are felt in both hands. The swinger for instance has taken it back to top with the right forearm, and is employing Extensor Action with his right side, feels the pivot stretch the left side(take up the slack) and load the cocked left wrist in transition. The Snead sit down move was probably felt in the left arm and left hand, Im guessing. Didnt he describe the "Tolling the bell" move with the left arm in Downswing. So he was feeling it in both hands, is what Im thinking. There are pressure points in both hands after all, swinging or hitting.

If only Id known this back in the days Dark Ages (in a pressure point sense) of the bad right hand, the passive hands era. Which begat pivot to hands and big muscles etc. And then Soft Rock and Rupert Holmes and............

Now, Hitting or Swinging I can feel my right side and its rock like structure at the very least. Let the right side be rock, like Keith Richards not soft like R Holmes or Air Supply or Hall and Oates.........or........England Dan and John Ford Col.............

My apologies to Bucket for denigrating his record collection.

OB

If you use the opposing pressure with the right hand pushing up plane while the pivot pulls the left during the transition you will really be a rock.

"Let there be Rock" AC/DC

John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM

must be hell hitting balls at first with the image of the dog! :golf:

I can't find phrase, but doesn't HK say somewhere that the #3 Acc roll must be synchronized with......

I found it. 6-B-3-O, Duh. How can anyone lose this one? Every Ball-Washer on every golf course should have a plaque that reads "6-B-3-O"

Much Ado About Nothing
 

The Feet (Component #17) and Knees (#16) respond to the Hip Turn (#14) and its Action (#15). NOT vice versa. Substituting Foot and Knee Motion for the correct Hip Turn and Action is a universal flaw that leads to "Happy Feet and Knees". This gratuitous Motion does not CAUSE anything, and in fact, tends to disrupt the Action it was intended to produce.

:salut:

Id like to nominate this post for immediate inclusion in The TGM Hall Of Fame. Perhaps a brass plaque on the wall. Im thinking of getting it tatoo'd on my upper legs so I can read it when I ever look down at address...... assuming Im in shorts. Ill silk screen it on some pants too for cooler climates.

Whoa Kemosabe. :)
The Feet and Knees should respond to the needs of the Hip Turn and its Action so they may perform as required by Zones 2 and 3.

Thank you Kevin and LBG for letting me be myself, again
 

:laughing9


I am so happy! May I quote Kevin?


Educated Hands are those that can feel the resistance of motion -- CLUBHEAD
lag. If the #3 pressure point is lost then "LAG" cannot be sustained. The hands
must control the pivot! Have the #3 pressure point completely replace the
CLUBHEAD, take #3 to the ball. The heart and soul of G.O.L.F. Is developing a
swing based on the hands. Teach Hinge Action without Body Motion.


Did I mention that I am so happy? :laughing9

I cannot change many things about my body geometry but I can courageously change the educational abilities of my hands and power points!


Patrick

Pressure!
 

Hey Patrick.

Luke aka Tuf, aka Ted Fort, aka PGA Georgia teacher of the year 2008, always likes us to say "Lag Pressure" as opposed to just "Lag". The former can be measured in psi, the latter having taken on a common golf speak connotation is often measured in degrees (of left wrist cock etc). They are not the same.

Lag Pressure is something you can (should/ attempt to) feel as it is a tell tale sign of good physics (acceleration, added mass etc) and geometry (flat left wrist, bent right etc). Since the #3 pp attaches to the club at the top of the Sweet Spot Plane the Longitudinal Center of Gravity it is the ideal thing to direct into the ball. It is both direction and thrust. Pressure Point awareness/anticipation can create these pressures even, where as pressure point black out tends otherwise. In this way Pressure Point awareness becomes golf concentration during the execution of the shot..........(planning , routing, praying etc having been taken care of earlier, in Preliminary Address).

Golf's secret is Lag Pressure. As such, when something is going wrong with your compression its the first place to look .... or feel.

LOL, I wish I could take credit for that quote... I guarantee you I stole that paragraph from somebody way smarter than me, like Yoda or O.B. :-)

BTW, O.B.s post just above this one is brilliant!

Kevin

Is this a great country or what?

I concentrated on pp# 3 at the range based on your thoughts, O.B.
 

Kevin sent a diagram to me that helped me realize that even I can't screw-up the basic geometry of my body!

Tonight I just kept throwing PP #3 at the ball with a hitting motion. Front arm back to parallel, pp# 3 to the ball and there is a significant repetition in hitting the sweet spot and increasing distance. :laughing9

Worked with woods, irons, chips and I'm sure it will on puts which is scary.

Before that, I simply dropped my elbow to my side and the ball went pretty far, but not as far as compared to using pp# 3!

Thanks! :golf:

In 12-5 Homer outlines the Basic (golf) Motion and a Curriculum for advancing from tiny little chips to mid irons, Total Motion. The short chips, Stage One, is harder than you'd think. I find that the difference between good shots and bad always relates to the presence of Lag Pressure at the #3pp. How did I form this opinion? Im always searching for the Lag Pressure, consciously. If I lose it , cant find it , start thinking about something else , the compression and the shot is often less than ideal. On the other hand when I put my mind in my #3pp (and have a clear mental picture of the target) and anticipate the Lag Pressure, find it and then direct it , trace with it..............the compression is good. Its an amazing thing to me. Truly. I clanked a lot of chips for an awfully long time without realizing how sweet they could be, should be.

Oh and you have to get to Both ARms Straight, or you wont feel compression to its fullest I find.

Glad your feeling it in all your shots but dont forget the little ones. The best in the world at this business, start every practice session, every warm up even checking out how they're doing in Basic and Acquired. Total Motion is easy if you have these going well.

Synchronicity
 

Homer: The Turning Rate of the Pivot Components especially the Shoulder Turn as actuated by Hip Action (7-15) - MUST be identical and synchronous with the #3 Accumulator Roll, else its Rhythm gets disrupted.

Tomasello: In other words he is telling you your left Hip has got to be synchronized with this Right Arm. The Left Hip is synchronized with the Right Arm because it is Hips which are going to pull the Shoulder - and the Right Arm goes right down the line.

Ok, so what you are saying is that the hip bump/slight forward step leads to the shoulders rotating towards the target and the extension of the trail arm focussed in pp# 3 to the ball with full extension through the ball.