Hogan in Mexico
 

Hope this link works. Nice footage of Hogan practicing in 1956.

Enjoy
ob



http://media.photobucket.com/player....fs=1&os=1&ap=1

Nice footage! I really like VJ Trolio's book, and you can really see what VJ is teaching in those swings!

:golf:

Kevin

Its slightly off speed, but beautiful all the same. Trance like.

ob

great clip
 

Thanks for the great clip

Love all the wedge shots

nice find OB!

I very much enjoyed it

This is the best footage of Hogan ever filmed, IMO. Too bad that it is not available on YouTube any more. The guy whose father fimed it was very generous (initially) to share this fantastic video with the rest of the world.

Cheers

Wow
 

Fantastic movie. Thanks a lot
Donn

I dont know if its the slightly slow motion or what but I can really see how things are working here. The way the right shoulder moves down plane and right on through the shot , for instance.

Poetry in motion.

Help
 

The link is not working for me...am I missing a program that plays it?:(

Thanks OB. Rarities like this are very much appreciated.

Mr. Hogan DTL
 

Here's some stop action captures of Mr. Hogan showing arm positions at setup and impact for two swings...Yoda may have some comments:)

Knudson pencil drill
 

Seeing this footage of Mr Hogan swinging with a cigarette in his mouth reminds me of old George Knudson story. Knudson was a smoker too and did much the same, even wrote of it as drill in his book. Although he switched the cigarette for a pencil.

All you teachers out there will get a kick out of how he used this drill during a lesson. It was a great way to get a student to keep his head up OR shut up if he or she tended to talk too much.

Cheers
ob

Photo Start
 

I asked hg to extract these stills from the video so I could use them as illustrations for a post. Thanks, hg!

I'm just in now from a long and happy day at Cuscowilla and will post tomorrow.

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Look forward to your comments Yoda. Interesting that his shoulders are not open as much at impact as is written about in analysis of Mr Hogan's swing.Looks like release is down and out not releasing left bending plane lines

It is always great to watch Hogan and any of the greats practice. I think it is especially practice that can teach us so much. I have read others say, and I agree, that because Hogan was such a shot maker, any one individual swing cannot be taken as evidence of what he did all the time.

I'm still looking forward to Yoda's post on this.

Thank you so much.
Do you have any idea what the music is in the background? That would be great stuff to listen to at the range.

Sorry Jerry, Im still working on the high waisted slacks for another guy.

ob

Silly goose. I like the calm portrayed in the music and the tempo must be right around 60-64. I think that would be very nice on the practice tee to help settle one's nerves, if at all needed.
Peaceful.
g

You promised you wouldn't mention it!!!!!!!!!

Jerry, most phones have a built in recorder this days, just record the tune using your phone then upload it to your ipod via your computer.

Pay very close attention to how well Hogan keeps his hands and chest in synch.

This is a perfect example of what 'connection' is, and is a core reason why Hogan was so consistent (and even why someone like Curtis Strange could move around so much, and still have a lot of success).

Excellent views of Hogan's motion.

Go to www.adobe.com

select downloads, select 'get flash player'

Yes this speaks directly to GPStyles' revelation, that with the proper set of high waisted slacks he could have a "keep the underside of your upper arms glued to your belt" mental image to make this connection you speak of automatic.


Edz, what is it about Hogans swing? There is something so beautiful but I cant articulate what it is really, or why I even like it. It defines something but I know not what. Is it CF?

ob

i think he is just like a machine. Sergio has some of it, but he seems to manipulate alot in the hitting area, Hogan just seems to flow, awesome.

Bennyfactors
 

He is always in control of the club. The club never controls him. He also has outstanding Accumulator Lag 6-C-0 (Storage 6-D-0) and a long Follow Through 8-11.

Yes good notes. There is controlled lag of the highest order. As if there is something special in his relationship with inertia . Like he wants all he can possibly get and he will nurse it for a long as he can? A giant vessel of lag with a steady, slow release valve.

I cant explain his swings majesty. And I cant think of another example in golf or sports in general of a motion so studied or universally appealing. Maybe in the arts, maybe it is art.

If, after theoretical golf surgery, our hands were truly just clamps, with their range of motion restricted in certain directions, would we all tend to look more Hogan like? Its all about the hands again maybe.

ob

He is perfectly in balance, on plane, and in Rhythm with a very stable center. And of course, a master of maintaining lag pressure, which I'd say he can feel all the way from his feet, to PP #3.

The connection isn't an 'action', it is a result of proper Rhythm and balance. If you look at players who had contact with Hogan, they all are great examples of that hands to chest relationship. Venturi, Knudson, Faldo to name a few. Mike Austin had this as well (as can be seen in his training aid, the 'flamer'). One of the big keys to why the figure 8 strap is a great training aid - learning the feel of that relationship.

Yoda

What were you going to tell us about the arm positions:)

hg

Hogan's swing addiction
 

Hogan was the swing ideal for all of my golf buddies and we tried to imitate him more than anyone. Sure we could do a pretty good Trevino or a Bobby Jones/Payne Stewart but doing a Hogan swing was the most fun because it didn't require reaching for the sky. That kept us from getting steep and fatting it like we did imitating Jack or Tom.

Reading this, it may be that you have to be a boomer to be addicted to Hogan's swing.

6-c-0. hogan and hands controlling pivot.
 

picture 1 pivot lag , accumulator lag and clubhead lag

picture 2 less pivot lag , less accumulator lag and clubhead lag

and 2-m-3 , " unless pivot thrust actually drives #4 accumulator through impact , its assignmentduring that interval is more clearly defined if considered as delivery , guidance and support of the power package , because it may or may not have contributed anything but motion during delivery ."

all controlled by pressure point #3



" All musicians stimulate each other. The vibrations get scattered around "- thelonious monk

Strutin' the Wedges
 

Able to keep your Flying Wedges intact with that thing on ?

Yep.... the trick is to get the feel for the 'connection' with it in the usual position (near elbows) and then once you have that feel, move it down to just above the wrists (a few twists of the figure 8 will take out the slack). You still have the same feels of 'connection', but can keep the flying wedges, specificially the right forearm flying wedge, in alignment.

I know connection can get a bad rap at times . . . . that connection deal with Mr. Hogan had LOTS to do with his hand path and plane angle too. You posted in another area about #1 being on the circle . . . . no question Hogan did that better than anyone.

A few observations . . . .

1. The connection deal . . . . for your arms to stay that "close to" or "with" your body you HAVE TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD PIVOT . . . no bobbing . . . or off plane shoulder motion. Not in the pictures how Mr. Hogan's head is lower at impact than at address . . he don't really do it like Tiger does . . . his head goes down on the backstroke unlike Eldrick who goes down coming down. In addition to that Hogan goes back up and in on plane fast due to his plane angle . . . so his arms don't look "away" from him as much as some like say Phil or Hoke . . . Phil's arms run off and Hoke just stays on the Turning Shoulder Plane.

2. Henny pointed this out which I thought was interesting . . . . Hogan sets a lot of lag but he RELEASES it . . . he's not dragging it in there really deep like Ben Doyle . . . he loads tons but he's letting it whip out via a suuuuuuuuuper fast release of #4 and #1.

Yes, a very key source of power. Reminds me of a quote from one of the Mike Austin dvd's re: the swingers sequenced release and throw out

"the only part of the release that is delayed is the turning of the wrist back to the ball" (accumulator #3)

In other words - you 'can' throw (uncock) very intentionally, and with a lot of force, as long as you don't roll at the same time and are on plane. As long as the release is sequenced. At release point, Hogan really released with a lot of force.

There is a LOT of mechanical advantage in the swingers sequenced release. It is a very efficient move.

Imagine trying to throw the club 'down' into the ground from top, while keeping your back to the target as long as possible. Get the feel for that 'uncock THEN rolll'.

Swing smarter, not harder :)

The original, clearer footage is now available online courtesy of the photographers son. Man I love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLLP...eature=channel

That is freaking SUBLIME . . . . I know you is good with the freeze frame pics . . . could you do a sequence on the swing at the 40 to 45 second mark? Beautiful stuff . . . .

I do em with my Casio on burst mode. 40 still bursts a second or whatever. Gonna need to get some batteries but fo shizzle.

I am no expert and threw this together from the 40 mark

Is it me or is his back swing not as flat as I remember it?

Thanks dude. Does that do it for ya bucket? I can shoot some uber fast stuff for ya if you want.

The way his right elbow moves, leads the hands in frame 5 jumps out at me.