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great athlete, many considerations
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Here's a great athlete that took a long hiatus from golf for years. He was a ski instructor, football player, baseball player, etc. I took him to a Titleist Performance Institute location and they said he had the greatest (initial) rotational shoulder speed of anyone they'd tested, including Tour players. And, he couldn't hit it out of his shadow. He was the poster child for over-acceleration.
One of the real problems with this guy was deciding on which side of the ball to put him. Years ago he'd played golf right handed, but he was only successful as a left handed batter in baseball. Right handed batting was unsuccessful. He throws right handed, writes left handed, kicks with the left foot, etc. It was apparent after a few lessons that it was going to be a tough road, because he was so comfortable batting left handed. The saving grace was that he could kill you with a baseball in his right hand. When hitting as a right handed batter, he had problems generating any speed. His Pivot didn't work well. We had a breakthrough yesterday. We've changed too many things to count since we started. But, we were finally able to change his Start Down speed. It changed his loading and acceleration. Impact was infinitely better, and the ball was compressed. In the pictures, I tried to synchronize his hands. Both were Total Motion, but it looks like a different person. |
Looks like you did one hell of a job sorting through the various considerations for your student. Have you had his swing analyzed by TPI since the changes? If so, what did you find? Also, any chance you could include photos from the rest of the swing. Might be interesting to see the entirety of the downswing.
Thanks! Matt |
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the hardest thing for him
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He took that same aggressive nature into golf, to no avail. So the hardest thing I ever asked him to do was to hit a Total Motion PW 20 yards. To him, it felt like it took two weeks to get to the ball. Success wasn't immediate, but he was finally able to hit it about 50 yards. In doing the drill enough times he acquired the ability to start slowly in the Start Down. Then, I had him trying to reach greater speeds AFTER Impact. When he did so, he was able to feel the heaviness of the club. It was something he had never felt. He's had a couple of practice sessions since the last lesson, and he can't believe how heavy Impact is feeling. He now has a kinesthetic understanding that acceleration is different than speed. |
no return visit
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I've been so busy this week with my regulars and those coming from different states (going to Augusta) that I've had no family time. So, if the boys nap today, I'll try to get some additional pictures posted. |
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I remember a friend came back from a PGA Tour event and said he gained 30 or more yards because he started to imitate their very gradual acceleration in the beginning of the downswing and then going close to full throttle near impact. Thanks Ted! Matt |
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best yet...
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same guy, new pics
I've spoken about this guy many times. He's the poster child for hard work. He's the one that's changed his max driver speed from 84 mph to 107 mph. He's recently had some irons creep over 100mph. We've updated his irons and changed the shafts to match the increased load he's placing on the shaft.
When his alignments get a little off, he returns to slower speed swings. Then, the pictures on the right are the result. The pictures on the left are from our original meeting. The pictures on the right are from yesterday. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
even the computer knows
It's funny how the LBG logo appeared on the second photo in each pair. Even the computer can pick out the good alignments. :laughing9
The computer didn't want to claim the pictures on the left. |
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Wow.
Nice small pulley wheel there. Is he swinging? Beautiful alignments, he looks like he's been playing for years. ob |
Looks really great, Ted. Sustaining the lag is a beautiful thing.
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The Rest of the Story ?
Ted,
Very nice work by both student and teacher. Structure (Extensor Action) and Impact Alignments are much improved, also Clubhead speed and more Snap than Sweep. All this from working on proper Acceleration or is there other things you worked on? |
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the best in the business
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It's been really enjoyable for me to see such changes. But, there's a guy that works at our range that saw Richard hitting balls for the first time, in a long time. After a couple of choice expletives, he watched in amazement as Richard pounded a few 7 irons. He couldn't believe that Richard had come so far. He hadn't seen the gradual changes that I had seen. He saw the culmination of months of change. |
Catalyst?
Proof positive! Do you recall what ideas in particular spurred your student on? i.e. which concept started the ball rolling for him? Example: for me it was understanding the way the right arm bends and straightens, or is straightened. This helped me understand the flying wedges, extensor action, and the sequencing of the accumulators.
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another interesting phenomenon
The biggest difficulty with Richard was having his dominant arm on the front side of the club. I much prefer to have the student's dominant arm on the back of the club. So, it was difficult for him to learn to use the right arm. It's still instinctive for him to attempt to employ the left arm when going for the additional speed.
During the lesson today, we had some interesting things happen. We quickly returned to the same success with the irons that we had in the last lesson (like the previous pictures in this thread). In fact, his speed with the irons was faster when hitting the ball than it was in the practice swing. I've found this to happen many times with my own stroke. I have much faster speed when hitting a ball. I can't get the club to move as fast without a ball. Here's the interesting part. When Richard tried to max out the driver speed, he reverted to some of his original alignments. Each of the pictures on the left are of a practice swing, where he was trying to exaggerate some of the alignments. The pictures on the right are hitting a ball, where he returned to some faults. Amazingly, his speed when hitting the ball was 107 mph, with poor alignments. So, he's gone from 84 mph to 107 mph. That alone would qualify him for an amazing change. But, even more amazing was the speed on the practice swing. It was 118 mph!!! You can get some false readings if it picks up a portion of the ball speed. But, it's impossible to get ball speed when you're not hitting a ball! As Homer said, "Impact is not a destination." When Richard learns this (physically) and is no longer ball bound, he can find his true potential in clubhead speed. 84 mph to 107 mph is a great success story. But, I can't wait to get him from 84 mph to 118 mph, when hitting a ball. I've never seen that much change. I know it's just a practice swing. But, I'd challenge anyone to get that speed with a golf club, with or without a ball, when your starting speed was 84 mph! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Flower Child
"You don't steer dandelions."
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what you said to Richard...
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--Lynn Blake He never forgot that, by the way. :) |
Two Men and a Mission
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I encourage those currently engaged in the alchemy of golf instruction to re-read the second sentence above: Student and Teacher, each committed to a defined system of alignments, and each with a total trust of the other.Some think of the Student-Teacher relationship as a reversion to grade school: The dominant Teacher sends, and the subservient Student receives. Learning may or may not take place. That is not the way Ted Fort teaches. Instead . . . Teacher and Student are adult equals. One with a superior knowledge of Golf Stroke Mechanics, and the other seeking to learn same. But the road to Golfing Perfection varies from student to student, and the Teacher's ability -- and willingness -- to explore those individual pathways defines his art. Those necessary efforts will be stifled if the Student does not trust -- and thus enable -- his Teacher to open and explore those pathways with him. Such Student resistance will quickly close promising doors and leave others unopened. Conversely, when the Teacher knows that his basic and exploratory efforts will be met with trust and 'can do', the fear of rejection evaporates, and the doors of opportunity open wide. Attitude matters. As in any quest, the treasure is seldom found straightaway. But, where two are bound together in sound principles and a search for truth, the answer always awaits. This is what Ted and Richard have done. Trusted Teacher and Trusted Student. From the grandstand, I cheer. :cheers: |
new milestone
Richard couldn't keep from coming for a lesson two days in a row. He hated the fact that his practice swing was so fast and his real swing was slower.
Today was another breakthrough. At the end of the lesson, he hit a ball with 114 mph of clubhead speed! (84 mph to 114 mph!) A 36% improvement in clubhead speed is pretty good for a 52 year old. I wish we had captured it on tape. |
New milestones
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I didn't even think that this was possible when we started with the 84 mph driver:
108 mph 8 iron! |
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Agreed. Cough it up, Luke. Was that how fast his Porche was going or his clubhead? Right Arm Throw, Aiming Point? |
where do I start?
In our first lesson, he had numerous things that were giving him trouble. But, I saw some potential. He played every sport and even taught snow skiing. He was a little unusual, as his alignments were just as bad as any hacker but his strength and fitness level were off the charts. He's 52 years old, but really stays in shape. Another real problem is that he's left handed and playing golf right handed.
In his first lesson, his weight was on his toes, his hips would stall at Impact, his acceleration in Start Down was faster than humanly possible, he was over Plane, his Left Wrist would Uncock and Roll before the club reached his right thigh, his Left Wrist would Bend at Impact, his club would exit his forehead in his Finish, and his clubhead speed with a driver was 84 mph. But, other than that, he looked great. :rolleyes: He's taken many lessons; often it would be more than one in a week. So, explaining the entire process is impossible. But, we started with Basic Motion and focused on the Left Wrist action. We've worked in all three Zones. His Pivot needed every change you could imagine. His Right Arm needed to learn how to throw, since he's left handed. He did many swings in slow motion, because he had difficulty in being slow in the Start Down. We pounded on the Impact Alignments. I know it sounds impossible for someone to evolve from an 84 mph driver to a 108 mph 8 iron. But, I think he always had the speed. If you were able to measure his clubhead speed in Start Down in our first lesson, I'm sure it would have been 100+ mph. It wasn't doing much for him by the time it slowed at Impact. It's amazing to see his new ability. He's capable of hitting shots that would make a professional happy. He told me about a shot that he hit, last time he played on a 215 yard par three with water front and left. It was into the wind and he hit a low trajectory 4 iron. When we started, I don't think a driver would have made it over the water. I have the entire process on video, so I have the proof. But, Richard wishes my hard drive would crash so I'd lose his original video. |
Great stuff Luke, he must be pretty excited about his game these days.
I guess its Geometry and Physics again, no magic pill. Right arm throw, so he's hitting despite being left handed, interesting. Im fascinated by the Throws. They seem like a missing ingredient or component in a lot of people motions. Thanks for sharing this with us. |
Right Arm Throw
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Swinging doesn't mean that the trail arm gets to wither on the vine. It drives me crazy to hear teachers say to "take the right side out of it." If that worked, you'd be able to hit a ball the same distance with or without the Right Arm. :eyes: Comments like those make my job recession proof. It doesn't hurt to have people like Richard playing golf with those that he hasn't seen in a couple of years. The wow factor never hurts the referral business. And, you're right. He's so excited about his game that it's hard for him to hide it. |
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Hall of Fame post for Hitters or Swingers. Thanks for this insight. |
And the hits just keep coming...
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We had to take another picture. Richard's doing things that I can't do. His speeds are unreal, so we had to take another picture. In case you think your eyes are fooling you, it’s a 119 mph 5 iron. I wish you could hear the sound.
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Drive for Show...
Ted,
Was he with us at Cuscowilla? |
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How far and How straight? |
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long and strong
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another personal best
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122 mph is the fastest Richard has ever achieved with a driver. 84 mph to 122 mph is the most change that I've ever seen. He continues to amaze me.
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With a 119 mph 5-iron, I would have to think that 122 mph with a driver is pretty much nothing. Is there something that holds him back with the driver?
PS - awesome progress! 3JACK |
mental became physical
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I tend to snarl and grunt when I pull the headcover off. It gets funny looks from my playing partners. :golf:
3JACK |
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