The Left Wrist is Clubface Control (1-L)
 

I am struggling with Clubface Control. What about the Left Wrist is Clubface Control?

Reference:
*…A complete definition can only be the sum of the comments about it (1-H)
* The Machine has three functions--to control the Clubshaft, Clubhead and Clubface (1-L)
* Bending the Left Wrist makes Clubface alignment erratic (2-D-0)
*Direction Control means Clubface alignment control (2-G)
*...the proper horizontal motion of the Clubface controls its alignment during impact………(2-G)
*Some players even intentionally execute Impact as exclusively a Swivel, making Clubface alignment extremely fleeting and erratic (2-G).
*….”Roll” is actually imparted by the turning torso and/or the orbiting Arms (2-G)
*Clubface alignment at Impact Fix must fit the selected Hinge Action (2-J-1)
* The key to control of the Golf Club is Educated Hands (4-0)
* Clubface Motion is Rotational Wrist Motion (4-0)
* Turn and Roll are Rotational Wrist Motions (4-C-0)
* Clubface alignment at Impact is a function of the Hands executing the Clubface Motion--Accumulator #3 (4-D-0)
*Have a clear picture of the Impact Hand Position all the way down--NOT the process of achieving it
(4-D-0).
*..basically, Accumulator #3 Hand Motion is Clubface Control,…..(6-B-3-0)
*..for Impact Clubface alignment control, Hitters should rotate their Grip but not their Plane Line at Address, while Swingers should rotate their Plane but not their Grip (7-2)

Prepare to Roll
 

The Left Hand throws out the clubhead with #2 acc and transfers the power with #3 acc. The LH performs all clubface control from uncock, Roll, Hinge and Swivel. The Right Hand’s only concern is mashing down onto the ball. It controls the clubhead.

Check out Lynn’s Swivel video clip- it is all Left Hand Roll. Whether a snap release or a sweep release, the Right Hand should not control the clubface guidance. That is Steering.
A Swinger really needs to incubate the feel of the left hand rolling. This was a breakthrough for me- and not an easy one. Hinge action is ALL left hand control. Your Pressure points END at impact- don’t let #3 PP throw-away your clubface.

Why bother after impact? Check out the Swivel video (watch Lynn Swing)- why bother? Because you must prepare to roll and produce a Hinge Motion before impact and with the Left Hand.

Left Hand
 

I was familiar with the swivel video clip but have replayed it repeatedly. Is there a book reference that you would emphasize or add to my list? Also, it was observed that the course outline for the Las Vegas Academy included "Hitting (drive out) Vs Swinging (throw out).

Thanks for the response.

Flailing Around
 

Doc,

Study the function of the Flail in 2-K.
I didn't see that on your list.

As you've read in 2-G the clubface mirrors the rolling (or non-rolling) flat left wrist through impact.

In that respect you don't need to monitor the clubface, but rather the hand motion.

Hinge Action
 

In Hinge Action Part 1 in the Gallery Yoda says the primary hinge controls the face. I am now reviewing Chapter 2 of the Archives.

The function of the machine.
 

The Machine has only one function--to execute the program.

Bending the Left Wrist is part of the vertical hinging.

Direction Control means Clubface and/or stance alignment control .

….”Roll” is actually imparted by the inertia of the club and turning torso and/or the orbiting Arms.

The key to control of the Golf Club is Newton's Laws of Motion.

Clubface Motion is Rotational Wrist Motion and forearm motion.

Turn and Roll are Rotational Wrist Motions and forearm motions.

Have a clear picture of the finish Position all the way down and up and back--NOT the process of achieving it.

..basically, the inertia of the club is Clubface Control,…..

Veneer Control
 

Just a few corrections.
The left wrist never bends. Its motion is to cock and uncock only. Vertical Hinging does not include a bent left wrist.

Direction control means clubface alignment control per the left wrist. 1-L-C. The clubface controls the direction and can either be open, square, or closed to the plane line. Through impact the clubface can close, hood, or layback. Hooding is not an effective alternative which leaves closing and layback.

Singular or combinations of those two motions correspond to the three hinge actions; That is "Closing" without "Lay-back." (Horizontal Hinge) (10-10-D) "Lay-back" without "Closing" (Vertical Hinge) (10-10-E) and simultaneous "Closing" and "Lay-back" (Angled Hinge) (10-10-C).

Stance is just one of many elements that assist in direction, but is not at all mandatory.

Based on the context of your response, using inertia ALONE for clubface control is a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure. It's not something we recommend here primarily because Homer said it was an inferior procedure.

Please clarify for me if I'm mistaken about what you teach.

Sorry.
 

Sorry, that's not what I use and teach. And, again, mine is "LAG-controlled-pivot".

Things can get out of control, if wrong things get controlled.

Bending the Left Wrist can be a procedure though if you use it intentionally . . . and it can be DEADLY.

The Big Break
 

You are right and I stand corrected.
:idea1:
How about the next time we hook up, you can stand 6 feet in front of me and I'll hit a soft lobber from a tight lie over your head with a flat left wrist? :cool:

The one I have trouble with is Seve's famous "flip the clubface" under the ball and catch it. As much as I hate the thought of flipping, I'll try that one too if you'll stand in front of me. :eyes:

Mikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep in mind that the right forearm and elbow are the 'guide' in terms of any 'rotational' motion.

That is to say, swivel (startup and finish swivel) are not the same as hinge action.

Depending on the components used, hinge action may 'feel' like one smooth, constant swivel/rotation - but ALWAYS with the straightening right arm (with a bent right wrist) being the 'gatekeeper' for your Rhythm and rate of clubface closing.

Drill taking the club back to about hip high, flying wedges in place, and slowly straighten the right arm towards your impact fix hand location. You'll see that if the right forearm, the angle of approach, is correct, that the rate of clubface closing isn't a constant swivel action, even if it feels that way in some procedures (a true 'swing' with its throw out).

Bagger
 

Bagger,
I hate to barge in but you'll need to stand behind me in this line- because before you get fresh meat- I get to hit a soft lobber with my driver using a full power 4 barrel snap release maximum trigger delay maximum swing radius maximum acceleration thru impact, while pulling a groin muscle.

Heres a shot you can make by flipping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wToLT...elated&search=

MikeO,

This forum does not condone any procedure which would cause bodily harm. Your post is an outright violation of forum rules. I humbly request that you consider using a 3-barrel pattern to avoid any self-inflicted groin injury.

Great post Ed! And one more for the drills section.
We don't want to lose these.

Sorry for the interruption DOCW3 - How is the left wrist study coming?

Thanks,

On the hunt for Chicken
 

I knew you would want to be first in line! OK- I'll take the chicken left overs! :eyes:

How is the left wrist study coming?
 

From 2-G, HINGE MOTION (page 28, first paragraph): "....an alternate reference point is needed. The Left Wrist position is a dependable standard...."

From BALL BEHAVIOR, 7-10 (page 103, last paragraph): "...the real control comes with moving or holding the Left Wrist in the positions called for by the respective Hinge arrangements."

it is very important for Swingers to learn how to perform all the Hinge Actions since they only use HH without control. Hitters have much better clubface control. Even if you don't use them in full shots- Swingers will gain great insight to ball control for their short game. As Homer said- "Learning only one Action isn't so helpful because you won't know their differences."

The added value of the Flat Left Wrist controling the Clubface is Rhythm Control, 6-B-3-0.

What Stimulated My Original Post
 

Is clubface control not more than a flat left wrist?

Ref:

*The Left Wrist is Clubface Control (1-L)
*A Flat Left Wrist is the #1 Imperative (2.0)
*Rotational Wrist Motion: Turn and Roll (Clubface): Hand Motion (4-0)

If you have the knowledge that the left wrist needs to be "flat", (you're not trying to flip, thinking flipping adds speed,etc), you'll get and maintain a "flat" left wrist by maintaining and producing clubhead lag pressure. This is basic direction control. Having maintained clubhead lag pressure either horizontal or angled hinging will occur based on if one is swinging or hitting (no actual thought of manipulation, as you can manipulate the hinging - that is use angled with swinging or horizontal with hitting, etc). Using different types of hinging for ball control and variations of the straight plane line = finesse direction control. Depend on the vertical condition of the left wrist at impact.

Hi Doc,

Been a long time since I delved into TGM, so be gently on my answers.

Just a few thoughts - I think when Homer refers to 'wrist' motion in regards to clubface control, he is referring to a flat left wrist and its rotational movement - not the wrist itself cocking/uncocking. Not sure if that was confusing you.

But my take is essentially this:

If you take your grip at impact fix - and align the flat left wrist with the clubface/leading edge, then the clubface/leading edge will always match the flat left wrist, regardless of selected hinge motion. Again, this assumes a flat left wrist at impact.

Hope this helps.

Patrick

That Will Do It
 

I have just watched Lynn's 2008 Barclay Academy video in the Gallery. Many of the points made in the different posts are reinforced. I believe that will do it.

:golfcart:

DRW

I agree that LB explained it very well in that Barclay's Academy video.

As a TGMer who is very interested in golf biomechanics, I will add just one point - that the different degrees of hinging are primarily due to variable degrees of external rotation of the left humerus at the left shoulder socket joint per unit time during the followthrough, with horizontal hinging having the greatest amount of external humeral rotation per unit time. The left humerus rotates at the same rpm as the left forearm which rotates at the same rpm as the FLW which rotates at the same rpm as the clubshaft.

The second point is that this external humeral rotation happens naturally in response to the golfer's intent - the intent to control the clubface via the left hand.

It is not an "unnatural action" that requires practice, as argued by Tom Betrand in his swing video on the "missing link" in Hogan's secret - the missing link of "actively turning-in the left elbow towards the left hip".

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=58A1-abPcEM

Jeff.

Do As Ben Did, Not As He Said To Do
 

Jeff,

The "natural" rotation you speak of may be natural, but I believe that the Bertrand action approaching Impact is not natural at all. In fact, it is contrived (which is exactly why Bertrand himself admits it is "unnatural" and therefore must be practiced over and over again).

Count me out.

I believe in and teach natural, efficient (geometrically aligned) motions, and this one just doesn't cut the mustard.

The source of this confusion is Hogan himself. As illustrated in the first thumbnail below, he did indeed recommend in Five Lessons that we adopt the contorted arm alignments later recommended by Bertrand. As for the arm alignments of Hogan himself, see thumbnail #2. Or, go here and compare http://www.35mmgolf.com/c001u.html.

Quite a difference, don't you think?

In his book (pp. 28-29), Bertrand noted that, in a conversation with John Schlee (his source of Hogan 'secrets'), Hogan admitted that he himself did not use the contorted alignments -- those illustrated in Five Lessons, purportedly recommended to Schlee, and adopted and perpetuated by Bertrand in his book -- but said that he would if he were "physically" able to do so (after his auto accident "healings").

:rolleyes:

I was not privy to that conversation, nor was Betrand, and both Hogan and Schlee now are gone, so we'll never know.

So, I'll go with what Hogan actually did, not what he told us to do or said he would do himself if he "could".

Said another way, just gimme the Flying Wedges (Left Arm and Right Forearm of 6-B-3-0-1 / see my avatar) and I'm happy.

:golfcart2:

Yoda - I agree with you 100%.

I think that Bertrand's idea is unnaturally contrived and that a natural biomechanical action is better. I also agree that Hogan never had his arms together in a contorted alignment as in that drawing.

Jeff.