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comdpa 11-01-2006 10:57 AM

Mr. Kelley's Genius - Watching the Clubhead Blur
 
Per 8-0,
"-3. Visualize the PATH OF THE CLUBHEAD THROUGH AND BEYOND IMPACT (Adjusted Address)

Then be sure you actually see the proper blur of the Clubhead passage through Release.
"

Read the below with the quotation above in mind...

[As a teacher in the late 80's, I began experimenting with visual techniques to correct this common fault. Mechanical alterations often helped those with minor swing path problems but rarely affected the severe cases. Generally, mechanics used to correct an improper swing path were too uncomfortable and confusing.

One visual experiment led to another and finally, in 1994, a more radical thought came to mind. Why not take a direct look at the swing path instead of looking at the ball? I asked my students to focus on a spot on the ground, several inches behind the ball. The spot was also located on a slight inside angle to the target line----the path for a "perfect swing".

When you focus on the pre-impact spot, passing the center of the club head over the spot becomes your only concern. Your attention is temporarily shifted away from the ball and target. You are now creating the desired swing path allowing vision only, to be your natural guide.

Eye positioning is the term I have associated with this technique. It soon became obvious that a training device was necessary to insure correct eye positioning. In order to provide golfers with graphically accurate images, VisionTrack was developed.
]

This was taken from www.visiongolf.com - I do not use it and neither am endorsing it. I am just trying to get a point across.

Isn't it wonderful to discover that even 23 years after Mr. Kelley's untimely passing, the principles of TGM are still being validated.

Isn't it wonderful to know that we as exponents of TGM are so many years ahead? :)

wolfman 11-01-2006 11:48 AM

Vision Track
 
I believe Chuck Evans uses this. He has mentioned it in the past.

glcoach 11-01-2006 12:00 PM

Is this similar to aiming point?

mb6606 11-01-2006 12:08 PM

One is Visualizing the swing path the other is aiming the thrust/release. At what spot along the baseline of the inclined plane do you direct your thrust?
Personally as the club gets longer I direct thrust further back from the ball (always along the inclined plane).

12 piece bucket 11-01-2006 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comdpa
Per 8-0,
"-3. Visualize the PATH OF THE CLUBHEAD THROUGH AND BEYOND IMPACT (Adjusted Address)

Then be sure you actually see the proper blur of the Clubhead passage through Release.
"

Read the below with the quotation above in mind...

[As a teacher in the late 80's, I began experimenting with visual techniques to correct this common fault. Mechanical alterations often helped those with minor swing path problems but rarely affected the severe cases. Generally, mechanics used to correct an improper swing path were too uncomfortable and confusing.

One visual experiment led to another and finally, in 1994, a more radical thought came to mind. Why not take a direct look at the swing path instead of looking at the ball? I asked my students to focus on a spot on the ground, several inches behind the ball. The spot was also located on a slight inside angle to the target line----the path for a "perfect swing".

When you focus on the pre-impact spot, passing the center of the club head over the spot becomes your only concern. Your attention is temporarily shifted away from the ball and target. You are now creating the desired swing path allowing vision only, to be your natural guide.

Eye positioning is the term I have associated with this technique. It soon became obvious that a training device was necessary to insure correct eye positioning. In order to provide golfers with graphically accurate images, VisionTrack was developed.
]

This was taken from www.visiongolf.com - I do not use it and neither am endorsing it. I am just trying to get a point across.

Isn't it wonderful to discover that even 23 years after Mr. Kelley's untimely passing, the principles of TGM are still being validated.

Isn't it wonderful to know that we as exponents of TGM are so many years ahead? :)

Very interesting . . . I turn in to even more of a mouth-breathing-drouling MO-Ron when the ball is right there infront of me.

Have you tried this? Results?

12 piece bucket 11-01-2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny
I do use and endorse vision track . Great for slicers.

Denny what are the results like? Does it improve Plane and path? Also improve 3 dimensional impact?

Seems a little different than the aiming point concept . . . but does have some similarity.

Have you videoed students using it? If so what are the before/after looks?

Thanks!

B

glcoach 11-01-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606
One is Visualizing the swing path the other is aiming the thrust/release. At what spot along the baseline of the inclined plane do you direct your thrust?
Personally as the club gets longer I direct thrust further back from the ball (always along the inclined plane).

Ah, good point. I see the difference now. I have recently discovered the magic of aiming point and was curious if this could help. Thanks.

BlackjackNY 11-01-2006 07:32 PM

Well, it works for lefties...

Lynn, can you give a look at their video and give us you thoughts on whether this product is useful?

Yoda 11-01-2006 10:06 PM

Coming Soon To A Pro Shop Near You
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackjackNY

Lynn, can you give a look at their video and give us you thoughts on whether this product is useful?

Thanks for the video, BlackjackNY...

Our virgin Pro Shop will soon be replete with a handful of carefully-selected goodies. Expect this to be among them. At a discounted price to LBG Members. :)

mb6606 11-01-2006 11:35 PM

I have a Vision Track and I find it helpful. Makes it easy to understand the arc and angle of approach among other things.

comdpa 11-02-2006 02:49 AM

A Visual Illustration
 
This is an illustration I pulled from www.visiongolf.com


12 piece bucket 11-02-2006 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Thanks for the video, BlackjackNY...

Our virgin Pro Shop will soon be replete with a handful of carefully-selected goodies. Expect this to be among them. At a discounted price to LBG Members. :)

Is this an LBG Endorsement of the product?

:confused1 :think:

BlackjackNY 11-02-2006 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Thanks for the video, BlackjackNY...

Our virgin Pro Shop will soon be replete with a handful of carefully-selected goodies. Expect this to be among them. At a discounted price to LBG Members. :)

Sounds good, Yoda. As we await the opening of the Pro Shop, can you give us three training aids you wholeheartedly endorse? And I'll make it tougher by asking that they not include dowels, impact bag, or B.O.S.U. Ball!

Yoda 11-02-2006 10:26 PM

Training Aid Endorsements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackjackNY

Sounds good, Yoda. As we await the opening of the Pro Shop, can you give us three training aids you wholeheartedly endorse? And I'll make it tougher by asking that they not include dowels, impact bag, or B.O.S.U. Ball!

There are at least four items that I know will be offered, but I hesitate to mention them now because I want the business for our own Pro Shop. :)

I'll go through the Gary Wiren catalog and see if anything else jumps out at me.

Any Honorable Mentions will be duly noted!

comdpa 11-02-2006 11:11 PM

Equipment Endorsements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
There are at least four items that I know will be offered, but I hesitate to mention them now because I want the business for our own Pro Shop. I'll go through the Gary Wiren catalog and see if anything else jumps out at me.

Besides Training Aid Endorsements, will there be equipment endorsements so that we can "...be like Yoda?"

On that note, how about a "What's in the Bag?" segment starting with the tools in Ted and Jeff's bags?

BlackjackNY 11-03-2006 09:10 PM

Oops...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
There are at least four items that I know will be offered, but I hesitate to mention them now because I want the business for our own Pro Shop. I'll go through the Gary Wiren catalog and see if anything else jumps out at me.

My faux pas, Yoda. Wasn't thinking about the business angle. Eagerly awaiting the opening!

KOC 12-06-2006 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606
I have a Vision Track and I find it helpful. Makes it easy to understand the arc and angle of approach among other things.

I understood the angle of apporach of Vision Track.
May i ask how to explain the arc of approach?

glcoach 12-07-2006 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOC
I understood the angle of apporach of Vision Track.
May i ask how to explain the arc of approach?

Interested in this as well.


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