Right Shoulder Move On Downswing
 

A couple quick questions. What is the correct movement of the right shoulder on the downswing? What are some good swing thoughts or images to make this happen? If this has been answered in another thread please point me there.

Right Shoulder Turn Thoughts -- Thrust And Lag
 

From the Top, with your Hip Turn leading (Hip Action), turn your Right Shoulder toward the Ball. Done correctly, this procedure can produce Maximum Power (6-B-4-A) and Maximum Trigger Delay (6-B-4-C) of the #4 Power Accumulator.

"Hit the ball with your Right Shoulder."

This action discourages any tendency toward an 'Arm Swing' from the Top with its premature Triggering of the Release (the lengthening of the Third Side of the Power Package Triangle, i.e., Right Elbow Action straightening the Right Arm as the Hands move away from the Right Shoulder). Unless the Pivot (via the Downplane move of the Right Shoulder) brings the Loaded Power Package deep into Release, it is very easy to "run out of Right Arm" through Impact, an automatic Throwaway.

"Shoulder to the wall; shoulder to the ball; shoulder to the target." . . . . Chuck Cook, G.S.E.D.

Yoda,

When your turn the right shoulder to the ball is it going down the plane at the ball or do you turn it toward the ball on a level turn?

great ideas all....
 

provided the clubface (and subsequent hinge action) is where it needs to be...otherwise you can move the right shoulder toward the ball all day long but the results won't be what you're looking for...

Down Plane Power Package Transport
 

That's right, Timm. From the Top, the Right Shoulder moves Down Plane and directly toward the Ball. This pulls your unaltered and fully-Loaded Power Package directly toward the Ball as well, thus preventing the early Release of the Right Elbow -- which occurs when the Right Hand moves away from the Right Shoulder -- and the problem of 'running out of Right Arm" during Impact (an automatic Throwaway Trigger).

Yoda,

I messed around with this thought today and was able to real hit some nice shots. After awhile I lost the feeling. My problem is I use to much right arm and release the elbow to soon by the time I get to impact my left arm is straight with no forward lean or right wrist bend. Would you have any drills or suggested reading from the book that could help me work on using this procedure. I've used the right arm so much trying to extend it to get power that my elbow is always sore to the point that it hurts to hold any thing over a couple of pounds(like my 19 month old daughter). Anyway I would be interested in learning the correct hip and shoulder action to build this into my pattern. Still not sure if I’m trying to be a hitter or swinger so can this me used with both. I know this will only get me to impact but I’ll need to work on the hinge action to control the ball.

Thanks
Timm

Yoda,
Would you consider doing a a short video of this procedure? I am trying to make this my swing thought for the 1st move down and would like to make sure I'm doing it properly. Thank you.

Start Down Waggle For A Correct Start Down
 

Hi Dale,

Check out my Start Down Waggle in the Jeff Hull / Lynn Blake Video Series. It's in one of the later segments. That is exactly how the Right Shoulder moves Down Plane -- courtesy of the Hip Action -- and that is all the attention I have ever paid to it.

I have never run out of right arm using the Magic of the Right Forearm to swing a club. In fact, I do the opposite, brush the ground consistently stroke after stroke. Trust me, you can hook (pull hook) a ball dramatically using your right shoulder.

DG

Professionals versus Serious Amateurs
 

The odd thing is I never heard Tomasello call it a right arm swing. Tommy called it swinging....and referenced the Magic of the Right Forearm as the source that generated the swing. The source that generates both hitting and swinging for TGM.

Easy to teach to the masses??? You think Tommy taught Jodie Mudd one way and then taught the general public another way (and I mean the basic swing approach)The Tomasello interview in golf illustrated disproves that...

GI: How long before a student makes significant improvement?

Tomasello: I can give you examples of golfers with no previous record of success who starting winning tournaments at various levels almost immediately. But the learning is never ending. The amount of time and dedication the golfer puts in determines how far he and she can go.

Checkout the Deitrick letter #2 video...the result of the swing that Tomasello taught does not generate a sweep release or a random release. It's a rope handle swing using longitudinal acceleration...one smooth motion which produces an automatic snap release.

DG

In the T/T video on the pivot Mr Tomasello states the right shoulder starts down/tilts which then shifts the left hip towards the target as is what this post was referring to is it not.