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Yoda 05-05-2006 07:59 AM

New Video -- Yoda Explains Hinge Action And Finish Swivel Action
 
Here's a two-part video explaining Hinge Action and Finish Swivel Action. Many thanks to Ted Fort for manning the camera and to Bagger for the graphics work and getting this presentation from the tape to your computer screen. Enjoy!

Part I

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-1.html

Part II

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-2.html

hoppga1 05-05-2006 09:19 AM

Great videos
 
Hey yoda!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the videos, Two of the best yet
Thanks HOPPGA1

Amen Corner 05-05-2006 09:46 AM

Excellent
 
Outstanding! Marvelous!!

These little videos, and your posts/knowledge, of course, helps me understand the book better.

I sincerely hope more will come.

Doug 05-05-2006 10:07 AM

Great Work
 
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Great clips

Thank You

Mathew 05-05-2006 11:55 AM

Yoda Rocks !:toothy:

bobbyj 05-05-2006 04:26 PM

Awesome clip Yoda!

Cheers.:thumleft:

BobbyJ.

Daryl 05-05-2006 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Here's a two-part video explaining Hinge Action and Finish Swivel Action. Many thanks to Ted Fort for manning the camera and to Bagger for the graphics work and getting this presentation from the tape to your computer screen. Enjoy!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Yoda,

Best Golf video ever produced. Ted and Bagger, thank you.

Everyone else: hang on to your hats and fasten those seatbelts, the TGM ride has been climbing a hill for a long time, but Yoda power has just been applied, and it's going to get fast and fun from now on.

golfbulldog 05-05-2006 06:26 PM

Crystal clear! Thanks
 
Yoda, do you remember that telephone conversation you had with Homer ( recently put up on the Croker website) where you were discussing hinge action holding your arm up and using north, south and east etc to determine where they were pointing??

I was confused and I am not sure you and Homer weren't confusing eachother a little ... but the video makes it so easy!!!:hello2: Thanks again.

This is why TGM message will spread!

Seanmx 05-08-2006 03:15 AM

:clap: Fantastic video, after trying this out on the course I can truly feel horizontal and vertical hinging for the first time. Thank you for another piece of the jigsaw. :clap:

hue 05-08-2006 05:25 AM

That is a really impressive explanation. These videos help enormously. Thank you . Don't be bashful about posting more of them. :toothy:

neil 05-08-2006 06:45 AM

Great stuff-but then I have my own priceless version from my visit to the swamp!:) I'm sure the fog is lifting big time out there.

neil 05-08-2006 07:01 AM

Swivel
 
YODA ,Swivel is classed as hand motion ,but since the Old Waverly class where you spent so much time on my swivel(without finding it:BangHead: )I have since been "practising".I can feel the swivel much better if I think of my shoulder as a ball joint-no concious manipulation just thinking during prctice swing and start down waggle seems to work -If practice translates into play then I am almost playing "out there'-as apposed to "in here"!Any thoughts?

Matt 05-08-2006 09:47 AM

So would you recommend maintaining the flat left wrist all the way through to the finish? Isn't there a natural tendency for the left wrist to bend once the shaft is back on the plane after impact?

metallion 05-08-2006 10:57 AM

When nature calls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt
So would you recommend maintaining the flat left wrist all the way through to the finish? Isn't there a natural tendency for the left wrist to bend once the shaft is back on the plane after impact?

The hitting reflex can indeed be called "natural" since most people have a hard time avoiding it. What it does is ADDING with the right, causing the left wrist to bend.

In this case "nature" has to be fought. Nothing strange in that. We fight temptations every day. When nature calls... :laughing9

metallion 05-08-2006 11:07 AM

And
 
The video was simply great.

Initially I had a serious problem mixing vertical and horizontal hinge. Let's say you'd be assingned the task of mouting a small door for the dog to be able to enter and exit the house. You'd call the owner and ask him whether he wanted the hinges vertical or horizontal. Might be a language thang, but I tend to think that most people wanting the hinges along the top frame of the door post would say: Mount them horizontally.
- You mean "horizontal hinge"?
- Yes!
- I.e. same as "vertical hinge" in TGM?
- Waitaminute....

I can easily live with it, but I sometimes find it confusing.

hcw 05-08-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallion
The video was simply great.

Initially I had a serious problem mixing vertical and horizontal hinge. Let's say you'd be assingned the task of mouting a small door for the dog to be able to enter and exit the house. You'd call the owner and ask him whether he wanted the hinges vertical or horizontal. Might be a language thang, but I tend to think that most people wanting the hinges along the top frame of the door post would say: Mount them horizontally.
- You mean "horizontal hinge"?
- Yes!
- I.e. same as "vertical hinge" in TGM?
- Waitaminute....

I can easily live with it, but I sometimes find it confusing.

how i remember it is that HK was talking about Hinge Action which is perpendicular to the mounting of the Hinge Pin.

-hcw

metallion 05-08-2006 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcw
how i remember it is that HK was talking about Hinge Action which is perpendicular to the mounting of the Hinge Pin.

Thanks. Good enough.

Mathew 05-08-2006 05:11 PM

I believe that the hinge action is not just a concept of through the ball (impact to followthrough) but also the motion of the entire left arm through the entire stroke (I would love Lynns input on this to know if I'm correct on this). Looking at the structure of the flail in 2k and when that flail is attached to the hinge arrangement in 1-L - the back of the upper arm stays flat on the hinge as the forearm or swivel goes from its vertical condition to a turned condition yet the upper arm is still vertical to its hinge action plane - on the downstroke you turn the hand back to its vertical condition for impact to align the clubface back to its impact condition and the motion of the entire left arm that hits the ball as if it where one big hockey stick...lol. Another reason I think this is because it is a component meaning it is 'a part' of a mechanical complex.

dss 05-08-2006 09:48 PM

Thank you, Yoda...
 
...for these two visuals. My lament , past, present and probably future, is that TGM, for us VISUAL LEARNERS, is impossible to comprehend. However, when I can WATCH what you posted there, light bulbs are going on all over the place! What really needs to be done is a VIDEO of the most important concepts from each chapter of the book. That would be an advancement in golf instruction beyond anything anyone has ever accomplished or imagined.

hg 05-08-2006 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dss
...for these two visuals. My lament , past, present and probably future, is that TGM, for us VISUAL LEARNERS, is impossible to comprehend. However, when I can WATCH what you posted there, light bulbs are going on all over the place! What really needs to be done is a VIDEO of the most important concepts from each chapter of the book. That would be an advancement in golf instruction beyond anything anyone has ever accomplished or imagined.


Been done by Paul Hart (GSED) and hopefully soon by Lynn Blake...that's the one I'm anxiously waiting for.

Blade 05-09-2006 01:13 AM

TGM video explanations
 
I have always thought that video explanations or images help make the terms used in TGM instantly understandable - from complex or ponderable to quite simple concepts (brilliant in their conception by HK). Paul Hart's stuff is pretty good in helping that understanding take place.

Yoda's hinge and 'finish swivel' demonstration is 'crystal' of course.

For Paul's stuff:

http://www.crokergolfsystem.com/TGM_downloads.htm

RickPinewild 05-09-2006 07:00 AM

Hinge and Swivel
 
I've watched it several times, it's like a giant light switch was turned on, Thanks Yoda

chestnuts 07-31-2006 10:27 PM

You could also think of them as Full roll No Roll And Reverse roll.

noproblemos 09-06-2006 12:25 PM

Question 1.
Am I still supposed to swivel if I'm using a vertical hinge?
It seems harder to do the swivel if you use a vertical hinge or even an angled hinge.

Question 2.
I just want to confirm: in the hinge action related only from impact to followthrough? Do all three hinge actions come into the ball the same way?

Yoda 09-06-2006 06:35 PM

Hinge Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noproblemos

Question 1.
Am I still supposed to swivel if I'm using a vertical hinge?
It seems harder to do the swivel if you use a vertical hinge or even an angled hinge.

Question 2.
I just want to confirm: in the hinge action related only from impact to followthrough? Do all three hinge actions come into the ball the same way?

Re #1:

If the length of Stroke exceeds the Follow-Through, then you need a 'bridge' to the Finish. Ideally, that bridge is the Finish Swivel. However, the Vertical Hinge Action (with its Layback Only Motion of the Clubface) is usually restricted to the Short Shots, and most players simply allow momentum to carry the Stroke to its abbreviated Finish.

And yes, it takes some effort to execute the Finish Swivel when using Vertical Hinging. That's because Vertical Hinge Action's Reverse Roll Feel -- an actual 'backward' (clockwise) motion of the Wrists -- must be followed by the counter-clockwise Swivel of the Wrists to the Plane.

Re #2:

Yes...The Hinge Action is executed between Impact and Follow-Through (the Both Arms Straight Position). The Left Wrist is vertical-to-the-ground, i.e. perpendicular to the Horizontal Plane, at Impact for all three Hinge Actions.

Sonic_Doom 09-07-2006 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda

Yes...The Hinge Action is executed between Impact and Follow-Through (the Both Arms Straight Position). The Left Wrist is vertical-to-the-ground, i.e. perpendicular to the Horizontal Plane, at Impact for all three Hinge Actions.

I was under the impression that hinging was executed on both sides of impact (start-up, impact, follow-thru) as in Matthews animations.

CW

noproblemos 09-07-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millrat
I was under the impression that hinging was executed on both sides of impact (start-up, impact, follow-thru) as in Matthews animations.

CW

AHAAAA!!
Something's wrong! :eyes:

annikan skywalker 09-07-2006 10:41 AM

Read 10-18-C....#1/2/3

6bmike 09-07-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Read 10-18-C....#1/2/3

Right on the money- for Single left wrist action- since there is no hand motion during the stroke and the pivot keeps the clubface On Plane and imnpact fix alignments intact.

But... if Standard Wrist is used where the hands are turned in the backstroke, they better roll back on the downstroke. Shout it out- You must Prepare to Roll on the plane line before execution. Homer says that a swinger will feel as if the HH is one big turn and roll. But the hinge action is after impact- full of preparation.

A Swinger using an Angled Hinge, since it is NO Roll, will feel no hinge action but a swivel/roll late into follow through.

6b

jerry1967 03-19-2007 09:04 PM

what am I doing wrong- I can not get the videos to work?

hg 03-20-2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 39679)
what am I doing wrong- I can not get the videos to work?

go to the Gallery/video clips/Lynn Blake....you should see both there:)


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