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mgjordan 03-19-2005 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
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Originally Posted by ChrisNZ
I'm very interested in Tomasello's description in this video of trying to unbend the right wrist from release point (or at least from where the right arm reconnects to the body). Obviously he doesn't think it is possible to lose all of the bend, but I was still surprised by this. Does anyone have any comments? Delaware Golf - do you use this procedure - is it recommended?

By the way, can I add my voice to all the others praising this site. I am constantly amazed by the quality of content here. The Hogan home video was fantastic but this Tomasello series is truly a dream come true. Thanks!

Chris

Remember....the hands don't move the hands...the action at release should be with the muscles of the right forearm (Magic of the Right Forearm)....it's right forearm thrust per 7-3 (study 7-3)...you drive the right forearm to a LONG right arm...so, what Tommy is saying....with an extensor action follow thru you won't be able to put your right wrist into a throw-away condition (because your left hip...if allowed to is moving out of the way, when driving the right forearm down and out at release... just let that left hip move out of the way...)


The fun has only started...Tommy has more revelations on the way (and drills to practice)....just sit back and enjoy the show....

Thanks again Yoda (and your staff) for putting this together, it's been a blast watching it unfold in a chapter series...

DG

Is this where Croker and Martin Green got "try to unbend the right wrist as hard as possible into the ball" from?

tincup2004 03-19-2005 01:05 PM

Another great clip. Thanks to Yoda, DG, the staff, and of course the late Tomasello for bringing it out in the public. Cheers.

BerntR 03-19-2005 08:59 PM

Re: Members Wanted -- Not Just Quick Hits
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Anybody got an idea how to best do this? We're going to have a ton of this stuff in the future, and it would be nice to have some standardized linking procedure to attract permanent members to the site -- not just quick hits.

IMO, very good video - but without the book and your exellent explanations of the left hand/right hand wedges - and the reminders of pressure point #3 - it has limited value. Limited and good enough to create considerable interest.

It could serve well as a nLBG teaser on other sites: For more info about the .... goto www. lynnblakegolf.com etcetera.

bambam 03-19-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Webmaster Extraordinaire
 
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Originally Posted by dclaryjr
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
It's already set up that way. If you provide a link to the forum and someone isn't registered, they will be taken to the "public" forum page. That's the default. Just direct link'em to the forum. Tell them they need to register first. This is a great club, they may never leave!

Bagger

But the vidoes don't reside "in the forum." As it is now you can give a direct link to the Gallery.

A quick check of your webserver indicates it should be capable of mapping certain requests (ie. movies) to some code (php) that could validate the user and kick them to the forum home page if they aren't registered and logged in. The only down side is that you wouldn't be able to view those same items in your "gallery" without being a registered, logged in user of the forum (good?/bad?). I'd be glad to help w/ any of this if you need me.

Toolish 05-21-2006 08:32 PM

My first thought watching this was it encourages the right wrist straightening...like the Croker system maybe does...does anyone know if this is where Croker got it from?

Delaware Golf 05-22-2006 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Toolish
My first thought watching this was it encourages the right wrist straightening...like the Croker system maybe does...does anyone know if this is where Croker got it from?

No...Tomasello does not encourage straightening the right wrist, in fact, Tomasello promotes the opposite, a bent right wrist through impact...any flattening of the right wrist is a post impact condition.

DG

Peter Croker 05-22-2006 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mgjordan
Is this where Croker and Martin Green got "try to unbend the right wrist as hard as possible into the ball" from?

Dear Mr. Jordan,

The use of the right hand is more as a "karate chop" action from the change of direction down and out in to the ball.
This action promotes the left hip rotation throughout the downswing and all the way through impact,follow through, and into the finish.
The direction of the wrist release is in alignment with the clubshaft to left arm (for right handed golfers).

This has the Pressure Point #1 of the upper hand / wrist area "pushing" down and out in the direction of the ball, while the #3 Pressure point assists the "uncocking" action of the hands and maintaining the clubshaft to left arm alignment through impact and well into follow through.

To my way of looking at the right hand action, the flattening action of the right hand occurs as the wrists move from level towards fully uncocked as you release deep into follow through.
Because of the flat left wrist caused by the uncocking action, the right hand can never move into a fully flat condition while the clubshaft remains in line with the left arm.

Correct use of the "pressure points" in the correct sequence and direction will guarantee that the right wrist can never arch and the left wrist never bend as you release down, out, and through the golf ball.

I do not advocate any attempt to consciously move the right wrist from bent towards flat in the hit of a golf ball. I do recommend uncocking and swivelling the wrists in the release down and out into the ball.

Hope this helps clarify the right hand action in the downswing from the Croker Golf System viewpoint.

Enjoy the Hit!

Peter Croker:)

Peter Croker 05-22-2006 08:38 AM

Dear Toolish,

The Right Wrist moves towards flat in the post impact area as both wrists fully uncock deep into follow through. I explain this in more detail in reply to Mr. Jordan.
Tom Tomasello was the greatest coach and instructor I ever had. His use of the right hand in this instance was to show how difficult it was to "unbend" the right hand while driving the pressure against the clubshaft and firing the clubhead down and out into the golf ball.
Ben Hogan was one of his hero too and he mentioned that "Why would Hogan wish he had 3 right hands to hit with unless he wanted to use them?"

Hope this helps clarify this area of action for you.

Enjoy the Hit!

Peter Croker:)

Peter Croker 05-22-2006 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by robert_w
Hi,

I have viewed the Peter Croker Site a few times for about the past year and just noticed the Tom Tomasello videos he has put on his site. Wow!!!

I downloaded the 9 videos (Tom in Australia 1989) and have used them with ease when practicing. I also searched for information
on Tom T. and came across this site. I joined right away.

My question from the videos is about the golf grip he recommened.

Can someone recommend a grip to buy? I have a spare 7 iron that I use at the range that I leave in the trunk of my car and would like to regrip it. I know there are several grips out there, but they seem to be endorsed by certain pros and was not sure if I would be copying their handgrip style vs. the one Tom T. was suggesting.

Thanks,

Robert W.

Dear Robert W,

The grip on Tom's short club was a standard moulded training grip as can be brought from most golf shops and repair outlets.

It certainly is a great benefit for all to help hands - clubface alignment.

Kind regards,
Peter:)

Peter Croker 05-22-2006 08:50 AM

Looking for the truth
 
Dear Robert,

It is a small world! Those of us that look for the simple truths are never very far apart.
May I invite you to attend one of our TGM/CGS schools downunder or in the USA, Europe, or Thailand.

I promise you will not be disappointed.

Kind regards,
Peter Croker:)


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