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12 piece bucket 05-30-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 42085)
You are right and I stand corrected.
:idea1:
How about the next time we hook up, you can stand 6 feet in front of me and I'll hit a soft lobber from a tight lie over your head with a flat left wrist? :cool:

The one I have trouble with is Seve's famous "flip the clubface" under the ball and catch it. As much as I hate the thought of flipping, I'll try that one too if you'll stand in front of me. :eyes:

Mikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EdZ 05-30-2007 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bts (Post 42053)
The Machine has only one function--to execute the program.

Clubface Motion is Rotational Wrist Motion and forearm motion.

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Keep in mind that the right forearm and elbow are the 'guide' in terms of any 'rotational' motion.

That is to say, swivel (startup and finish swivel) are not the same as hinge action.

Depending on the components used, hinge action may 'feel' like one smooth, constant swivel/rotation - but ALWAYS with the straightening right arm (with a bent right wrist) being the 'gatekeeper' for your Rhythm and rate of clubface closing.

Drill taking the club back to about hip high, flying wedges in place, and slowly straighten the right arm towards your impact fix hand location. You'll see that if the right forearm, the angle of approach, is correct, that the rate of clubface closing isn't a constant swivel action, even if it feels that way in some procedures (a true 'swing' with its throw out).

Mike O 05-30-2007 11:34 PM

Bagger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 42085)
You are right and I stand corrected.
:idea1:
How about the next time we hook up, you can stand 6 feet in front of me and I'll hit a soft lobber from a tight lie over your head with a flat left wrist? :cool:

The one I have trouble with is Seve's famous "flip the clubface" under the ball and catch it. As much as I hate the thought of flipping, I'll try that one too if you'll stand in front of me. :eyes:

Bagger,
I hate to barge in but you'll need to stand behind me in this line- because before you get fresh meat- I get to hit a soft lobber with my driver using a full power 4 barrel snap release maximum trigger delay maximum swing radius maximum acceleration thru impact, while pulling a groin muscle.

Mathew 05-31-2007 06:34 AM

Heres a shot you can make by flipping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wToLT...elated&search=

Bagger Lance 05-31-2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 42108)
Bagger,
I hate to barge in but you'll need to stand behind me in this line- because before you get fresh meat- I get to hit a soft lobber with my driver using a full power 4 barrel snap release maximum trigger delay maximum swing radius maximum acceleration thru impact, while pulling a groin muscle.

MikeO,

This forum does not condone any procedure which would cause bodily harm. Your post is an outright violation of forum rules. I humbly request that you consider using a 3-barrel pattern to avoid any self-inflicted groin injury.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 42092)
Keep in mind that the right forearm and elbow are the 'guide' in terms of any 'rotational' motion.

That is to say, swivel (startup and finish swivel) are not the same as hinge action.

Depending on the components used, hinge action may 'feel' like one smooth, constant swivel/rotation - but ALWAYS with the straightening right arm (with a bent right wrist) being the 'gatekeeper' for your Rhythm and rate of clubface closing.

Drill taking the club back to about hip high, flying wedges in place, and slowly straighten the right arm towards your impact fix hand location. You'll see that if the right forearm, the angle of approach, is correct, that the rate of clubface closing isn't a constant swivel action, even if it feels that way in some procedures (a true 'swing' with its throw out).

Great post Ed! And one more for the drills section.
We don't want to lose these.

Sorry for the interruption DOCW3 - How is the left wrist study coming?

Thanks,

Mike O 05-31-2007 12:30 PM

On the hunt for Chicken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 42129)
MikeO,

This forum does not condone any procedure which would cause bodily harm. Your post is an outright violation of forum rules. I humbly request that you consider using a 3-barrel pattern to avoid any self-inflicted groin injury.



Great post Ed! And one more for the drills section.
We don't want to lose these.

Sorry for the interruption DOCW3 - How is the left wrist study coming?

Thanks,

I knew you would want to be first in line! OK- I'll take the chicken left overs! :eyes:

DOCW3 06-01-2007 10:41 AM

How is the left wrist study coming?
 
From 2-G, HINGE MOTION (page 28, first paragraph): "....an alternate reference point is needed. The Left Wrist position is a dependable standard...."

From BALL BEHAVIOR, 7-10 (page 103, last paragraph): "...the real control comes with moving or holding the Left Wrist in the positions called for by the respective Hinge arrangements."

6bmike 06-01-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOCW3 (Post 42174)
From 2-G, HINGE MOTION (page 28, first paragraph): "....an alternate reference point is needed. The Left Wrist position is a dependable standard...."

From BALL BEHAVIOR, 7-10 (page 103, last paragraph): "...the real control comes with moving or holding the Left Wrist in the positions called for by the respective Hinge arrangements."

it is very important for Swingers to learn how to perform all the Hinge Actions since they only use HH without control. Hitters have much better clubface control. Even if you don't use them in full shots- Swingers will gain great insight to ball control for their short game. As Homer said- "Learning only one Action isn't so helpful because you won't know their differences."

The added value of the Flat Left Wrist controling the Clubface is Rhythm Control, 6-B-3-0.

DOCW3 06-12-2007 08:03 PM

What Stimulated My Original Post
 
Is clubface control not more than a flat left wrist?

Ref:

*The Left Wrist is Clubface Control (1-L)
*A Flat Left Wrist is the #1 Imperative (2.0)
*Rotational Wrist Motion: Turn and Roll (Clubface): Hand Motion (4-0)

SECGolf 06-13-2007 09:47 AM

If you have the knowledge that the left wrist needs to be "flat", (you're not trying to flip, thinking flipping adds speed,etc), you'll get and maintain a "flat" left wrist by maintaining and producing clubhead lag pressure. This is basic direction control. Having maintained clubhead lag pressure either horizontal or angled hinging will occur based on if one is swinging or hitting (no actual thought of manipulation, as you can manipulate the hinging - that is use angled with swinging or horizontal with hitting, etc). Using different types of hinging for ball control and variations of the straight plane line = finesse direction control. Depend on the vertical condition of the left wrist at impact.


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