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Old 02-07-2011, 11:43 AM
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Hi Everyone,

I want to a moment to introduce myself prior to asking my question. Basically, I am a PGA Apprentice, committed to being a great instructor. With that, I feel that understanding the science behind what you say is necessary. For instance, we know that having an FLW at impact is important, but I seek to understand why, hence my personal quest in becoming a GSEB. In my mind, that starts with guided self-discovery and understanding the big concepts.....I'm excited and looking forward to the journey.

Two questions re 1-L:

11. "Clubhead force and motion is on plane at right angles to the longitudinal C.O.G and varies with the speed, mass, and swing radius."

What, in the golfswing is longitudinal COG? or is there a better way of explaining that aspect of the machine.

20. For any given line of compression (through the ball) every machine must produce identicalimpact alignments.

This one I am just having a bit of trouble conceptualizing. Does this simply mean that regardless of the shot being played, the correct impact alignments are mandatory?

Thank you all for your help in advance, and I look forward to the journey!
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wilsmatt View Post
Hi Everyone,

I want to a moment to introduce myself prior to asking my question. Basically, I am a PGA Apprentice, committed to being a great instructor. With that, I feel that understanding the science behind what you say is necessary. For instance, we know that having an FLW at impact is important, but I seek to understand why, hence my personal quest in becoming a GSEB. In my mind, that starts with guided self-discovery and understanding the big concepts.....I'm excited and looking forward to the journey.

Two questions re 1-L:

11. "Clubhead force and motion is on plane at right angles to the longitudinal C.O.G and varies with the speed, mass, and swing radius."

What, in the golfswing is longitudinal COG? or is there a better way of explaining that aspect of the machine.

20. For any given line of compression (through the ball) every machine must produce identicalimpact alignments.

This one I am just having a bit of trouble conceptualizing. Does this simply mean that regardless of the shot being played, the correct impact alignments are mandatory?

Thank you all for your help in advance, and I look forward to the journey!

Hi WM. Many people here will help with a high quality answer but if you use our SEARCH function for your specific terms, you will get your needed answers and the machine components that are interrelated to your quest.

You will see the big picture more quickly. A couple of weeks ago, I started investigating the STATIONARY HEAD. That search yielded the entire Hitting motion and the essential steps in performing it with skill. Lately, I was able to deduce my need for the HORIZONTAL HINGE which revealed my lack of true understanding of a Swing. So my indoor practice sessions are more targeted and I have several more friends and might even get a female friend out of all this, someday, if things work out.

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Old 02-07-2011, 02:06 PM
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1-L is a Sweetspot
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wilsmatt View Post
Hi Everyone,

I want to a moment to introduce myself prior to asking my question. Basically, I am a PGA Apprentice, committed to being a great instructor. With that, I feel that understanding the science behind what you say is necessary. For instance, we know that having an FLW at impact is important, but I seek to understand why, hence my personal quest in becoming a GSEB. In my mind, that starts with guided self-discovery and understanding the big concepts.....I'm excited and looking forward to the journey.

Two questions re 1-L:

11. "Clubhead force and motion is on plane at right angles to the longitudinal C.O.G and varies with the speed, mass, and swing radius."

What, in the golfswing is longitudinal COG? or is there a better way of explaining that aspect of the machine.

20. For any given line of compression (through the ball) every machine must produce identicalimpact alignments.

This one I am just having a bit of trouble conceptualizing. Does this simply mean that regardless of the shot being played, the correct impact alignments are mandatory?

Thank you all for your help in advance, and I look forward to the journey!
Two great questions wilsmatt.
These concepts have eluded me for many years and if the defining post or video is out there I haven't found it yet.
Good luck with your journey.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:14 AM
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Longitudinal C.O.G is your "Sweet Spot" or "Swing Plane", reference 2-F. Plane Angle and Plane Line always refer to Sweet Spot LCOG application, not necessarily the Clubshaft Plane.

For any given line of compression (through the ball) every machine must produce identical impact alignments.
This simply means that Impact Alignments must match the desired shot, reference 2-0. Precision is recognizing and reconciling minute differences.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wilsmatt View Post
Two questions re 1-L:

11. "Clubhead force and motion is on plane at right angles to the longitudinal C.O.G and varies with the speed, mass, and swing radius."

What, in the golfswing is longitudinal COG? or is there a better way of explaining that aspect of the machine.
Look up Sweetspot in the Glossary of the Golfing Machine. Essentially the lengthwise center of mass of the golf club. If you let a golf club hang from the grip end and also have a weighted string hanging from the grip end - the string would show you the longitudinal center of gravity of the golf club and the point in which it passes through the clubface is the sweetspot. If you tap on the face to the left or right of the sweetspot - everything will rotate around that longitudinal center of gravity.

P.S. The only reason Drew is posting is to stay ahead of me in total posts - just an FYI for those interested.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:33 PM
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If you let a golf club hang from the grip end and also have a weighted string hanging from the grip end - the string would show you the longitudinal center of gravity of the golf club and the point in which it passes through the clubface is the sweetspot.
And . . .

Notice that the weighted string (plumb bob) hangs straight down. The Clubshaft does not.



It is this invisible "line of pull" that defines the Plane of the Stroke.

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P.S. The only reason Drew is posting is to stay ahead of me in total posts - just an FYI for those interested.
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
Longitudinal C.O.G is your "Sweet Spot" or "Swing Plane", reference 2-F. Plane Angle and Plane Line always refer to Sweet Spot LCOG application, not necessarily the Clubshaft Plane.

For any given line of compression (through the ball) every machine must produce identical impact alignments.
This simply means that Impact Alignments must match the desired shot, reference 2-0. Precision is recognizing and reconciling minute differences.
'Beat depression with compression'! Awesome Drew. I want the bumper sticker consignment! I think Mike wishes he'd though of it so he is lashing out. Perhaps this all because he cannot be his usual nasty self to KFC. I hope 12 piece and family are well. I hope Mike can find another sparring partner, soon.

I don't know Mike at all, so I'd be no fun for him. I know several people from Maine, anyway. That is what, half the population?

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What Mike got was golden . . . .just not a watch.
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