Below is a quote from the titleist club fitting website www.fittingworks.com - seems like we have a long ways to go if they are fitting length of shaft to sweetspot contact - any comments?
Length
The proper iron length will allow for ideal posture at address and will result in the most consistent on-center impact.
The length fitting process will begin by testing a standard length 6-iron with face impact tape. Depending on shot distribution, golf swing, posture and ball flight results, the player will continue testing 6 irons at various lengths until on-center impact marks have been achieved and ball striking optimized.
The most common 6-iron on the PGA Tour is 37.5" (standard) followed by ¼" over standard. This is the result of good posture at address and maintenance of proper posture during their swing.
There are circumstances where a player's swing does not allow for on-center impact marks, and the ideal length will be determined by one that encourages good posture and the most consistent ball striking.
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I have been a Titleist Fitter for years, and maybe I don't always fit according to Hoyle, but to me it's just another check point. For example, someone a little taller than standard, or someone seeking more distance may tell me they want to go with longer irons. One of the checks would be to make certain they can hit the longer club solidly, if not, it would cause them to lose distance rather than gain...
I find length to be more of an experimental procedure, rather than right or wrong based upon a players size or setup with a static measurement. To me, we need to find the players optimum length through trial and error, and from there make adjustments to the lie. Any length changes can be made to work for a player with the proper adjustments to lie...
Just my opinion...
Kevin
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My point was - the logic of using shaft length to find the sweetspot - just goes against the real nature of the beast. I understand your post - and I have no problem with practical affects of adjusting shaft length. It's just the way they describe it rubs me the wrong way.
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Sorry Mike, I guess I just have the system so ingrained that it makes sense to me... I look at club fitting much like the golf swing, an art rather than a science... I'm an old fart though, just old fashioned thinking?
Kevin
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Kev (Or anyone),
Fill me in on the history of measuring club length for someone. I picked up a used older Titleist fitting cart (36 six irons) for my Golf Studio - Now how they measured an appropriate length shaft was to stand upright and let your arms hang - then they have a section on the cart that notes whether you fall into the standard length or 1/2 or 1 inch long or short.
Currently, the titleist fitting website www.fittingworks.com - for iron fitting - has one determine appropriate shaft length by where you are contacting the ball on the clubface using face tape.
I know this isn't a perfect science - and there are a lot of combined factors to take into consideration. I'm just curious if anyone has some insight into whether Titleist has changed their stance on this, or do they use one or both of these factors in determining appropriate shaft length - also if anyone has feedback on how other companies fit clubs.
Thanks
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Kev (Or anyone),
Fill me in on the history of measuring club length for someone. I picked up a used older Titleist fitting cart (36 six irons) for my Golf Studio - Now how they measured an appropriate length shaft was to stand upright and let your arms hang - then they have a section on the cart that notes whether you fall into the standard length or 1/2 or 1 inch long or short.
Currently, the titleist fitting website www.fittingworks.com - for iron fitting - has one determine appropriate shaft length by where you are contacting the ball on the clubface using face tape.
I know this isn't a perfect science - and there are a lot of combined factors to take into consideration. I'm just curious if anyone has some insight into whether Titleist has changed their stance on this, or do they use one or both of these factors in determining appropriate shaft length - also if anyone has feedback on how other companies fit clubs.
Thanks
Mike, I may be kind of a maverick, but I've just always done what works for me. I've never used a static measurement for fitting length, and don't spend too much time with face tape. My biggest concern in length is getting something the student is comfortable with, and then adjusting the lie from there, also NOT using static measurements. I believe most fit into standard length, but may have different preferences. I just want to make sure that preference works. Sorry man, not very scientific and probably not much help... Very much fitting based on ball flight, preference, and feel...
Kevin
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Mike, also, these guys do an AWESOME job of fitting, and have some videos as well as papers on the subject. Very much in line with what I prefer, but they have some great tools. Titleist fitters, but a lot of great ideas that would work for any brand. The head Professional's name is Ryan Crysler, and I'll bet he would be happy to answer any questions on his Facebook page. Hope I have been of some help to you...
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