[DukeNasty]

'lawn mower crankers' ..."start the lawnmower" etc is the worst vision to have of the takewaway.

This is how I envision it. You're a card dealer in the middle of a round table. You deal cards to everyone from your left to your right. After you deal the last card to the schmuck on your right, you deal a card to the player behind and above your right shoulder. About 5 o'clock high. (If your head is the center of the clock dial) The elbow doesn't move much but the hand and forearm does.

Good stuff. I never got the lawnmower analogy because I surely don't start my lawnmower with a RFP motion and never saw my dad start it this way when I was a kid. The lawnmower analogy seems to apply directly to the One Plane Swing suggested takeaway move which is a sawing motion with the right elbow...just like I do when starting a lawnmower, doing one arm bent over dumbbell rows in the gym, or elbowing someone standing directly behind me.

On the other hand, the RFP, feels like I am raising my right arm like I would when getting ready to throw a ball or if I had a spear in my hand getting ready to "stick" something on the ground with the sharp point.

The big question I have always had is if there is a difference between RFP for hitters and swingers. How is the turn and roll of the left wrist reconciled between swingers and hitters or is there a difference? Thanks.

E.