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Old 01-30-2011, 11:13 PM
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Gripping down
The club that I perhaps struggle most with in my bag is the PW. I hit the ball much more solid with the gap - so much so that I've considering putting the PW in the closet.

Yesterday I tried to grip down on the PW. That made a big difference. I hit the ball at least as solid as I do with the GW and SW. Why?

I have two theories. 1) gripping down is kind of equal to play with flatter lies. 2) Gripping down also puts some weight above the hands, thereby stabilising the FLW.

I dunno' Perhaps I should purchase 1" extra length shafts the next time around just to add some weight above the hands. Or perhaps I should just have the irons flattened even more than I do today.

What do you guys think of flatter lies and more weight on the butt side of the club?
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:23 PM
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Tween the Ears or Clubs?
It's likely that its a mental thing. We become attached to different clubs based on their feel under common circumstances. Most of your PW - 3 irons probably have the same basic feel for full stokes. You grab your lob and sand wedge for the shorter shots. You grab your PW for 110 to 120 yard full strokes and rarely use it for specialty shots. Clubs around the green may be different brands, different shafts, different grips, i.e. they have a different feel than your standard PW - 3 iron set.

Just guessing, but if you start gaining confidence in your PW for certain short shots, it will become your go-to club for those situations.

I wish all of the clubs in my bag felt as good as my 3-wood, hybrid, and 60 degree lob. I would have much higher confidence overall. Even though they are different brands, shafts, etc. they all inspire confidence for their specific situations.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:29 AM
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Are the clubs the same brand and model. Have you checked their loft, lie and weights. There could be a something out of wack.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:13 AM
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The GW and SW are Titleist Vokeys. The PW and on are Mizuno MP 32. The Mizunos hare progressively flattened towards the long irons. The PW has stock lie angle. The PW is 1/2 inch longer than the GW and sits more upright at address. That seems to make a big difference.

I am sure the lie angle has a lot to do with what I am experiencing. Gripping down has very similar implications as playing with flatter lies. If you grip down an inch with a 5 iron you're playing a club with 5 iron lie angle and 7 iron shaft length. This is a very real difference. Right now I'm also thinking that it is easier to fade the ball if you grip down on the club. I'm certainly going to experiment further with this. And I will probably get flatter lies the next time around.

But I am also starting to wonder whether the redistribution of weight that occurs when you grip down has a significant impact. It will put more mass in the hands and less "dynamic" mass in the clubhead.
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