Take your RIGHT Shoulder as 'flat back' toward the Plane as you can. The LEFT Shoulder will then respond exactly as it should.
Thanks, BUT...
I am now/still confuses. I will try and rephrase my question with the concerns it creates. I do believe that I (that is only me at this point but I suspect many more of "us") get our left shoulder higher than we should, i.e. up under our chin, to facilitate a longer sholder turn but then the right sholder is allowed to "open up". All sorts of bad things may happen because coming down the left shoulder has to drop back into position or the left arm is now 3-4 inches shorter than at impact fix, the right shoulder has to restore its proper position on the way down and that (although in appearance) coordinated with the down plane shoulder turn isn't. I think (data limited to some video clips) the REALY FINE ball strikers, if you said at the top of your backswing, drop the club, stand up straight and face front without moving your shoulders, their shoulders would be like at address. I think (same caveat) the average guy-read duffer- would wind up with the left shoulder pulled way up and forward and the right shoulder back and open. If I am right then the back swing of the arms stops as the left arm meets the chest. To say it another way, If I lay a dowel across my chest at address and turn with the dowel the max shoulder turn should be with each shoulder holding its relation to the dowel at the top. Not with the left shoulder pulled up and towards the dowel and the right pulled back from the dowel. This is a very important question!
Bear you are hungry arent you. Its great, but you gotta "dig it out of the dirt" yourself some too. It is the only way you will find your own best set of components. There is no "one best way" after all. You have options, trillions of them. Vive la difference.
In some respects Im sort of surprised Lynn recommended a single variation so quickly. The fact he did means to me that he feels very, very strongly about it. And so we should all take note. The "flat back" he recommends is after all, in contrast to the 7th editions 12-1 and 12-2 and not what you'd get from a lot of famous teachers like say a One Plane fella or S&T teacher (who we love around here and have great admiration for, hi guys).
So HBear, if you're interested, from the book research:
-Turned Shoulder Plane 10-6-B and On Plane Shoulder Turn 10-13-D
-Standard Shoulder Turn 10-13-A . Which I believe Lynn was alluding to in his recommendation to you. That is, flat back and "on plane" going down.
-2-H Shoulder Motions. And note the bit about On Plane right shoulder motion requiring Axis Tilt. The third paragraph in my 6th edition Homers deals with the geometry of Shoulder Control as solely a Right Shoulder deal. That the Left Shoulder is "helpless" in this regard. Its a nice read.
You could also research:
-Position golf vs Alignment golf.
-golf as a right sided game.
Sorry, dont mean to sound professorial with a required reading list or anything. But at least it'll help you wade through the book while in search of your answers and at the same time give you a better understanding of Lynn's great recommendation to you; it requirements and incompatibilities.
It sure would be easier if there was one best swing or set of components but sadly there isnt! It would be kind of boring too maybe. No Trevinos , no Palmers, no ?
Thanks, BUT...
I am now/still confuses. I will try and rephrase my question with the concerns it creates. I do believe that I (that is only me at this point but I suspect many more of "us") get our left shoulder higher than we should, i.e. up under our chin, to facilitate a longer sholder turn but then the right sholder is allowed to "open up". All sorts of bad things may happen because coming down the left shoulder has to drop back into position or the left arm is now 3-4 inches shorter than at impact fix, the right shoulder has to restore its proper position on the way down and that (although in appearance) coordinated with the down plane shoulder turn isn't. I think (data limited to some video clips) the REALY FINE ball strikers, if you said at the top of your backswing, drop the club, stand up straight and face front without moving your shoulders, their shoulders would be like at address. I think (same caveat) the average guy-read duffer- would wind up with the left shoulder pulled way up and forward and the right shoulder back and open. If I am right then the back swing of the arms stops as the left arm meets the chest. To say it another way, If I lay a dowel across my chest at address and turn with the dowel the max shoulder turn should be with each shoulder holding its relation to the dowel at the top. Not with the left shoulder pulled up and towards the dowel and the right pulled back from the dowel. This is a very important question!
I strongly recommend you forget about your left shoulder and master the MacDonald Exercises. Click on each one, and do EXACTLY as instructed.
Thanks YODA, ALL
I do accept your conclusion
Homer did leave some comment in various places such as 2-m-3 etc.
Just a note. In spite of the millions of combinations I do think TGM does present a kind of Hobson's choice.
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