I was watching the broadcast of the Northern Trust at Riviera today (3rd round) and they had some great slow-mo footage of Mickelson and Couples. It was very apparent of how their lower hand is coming off the club at follow through. We have seen footage of VJ doing this for years.
What effect does a different hinge or roll have on this 'coming off ' position?
I was watching the broadcast of the Northern Trust at Riviera today (3rd round) and they had some great slow-mo footage of Mickelson and Couples. It was very apparent of how their lower hand is coming off the club at follow through. We have seen footage of VJ doing this for years.
What effect does a different hinge or roll have on this 'coming off ' position?
Hey Slicer
Somewhere on this site is a very good Yoda post commenting on VJ's right hand drop off. I cant seem to find it right now. Suffice it to say that it is very detailed in an only TGM can describe kind of way. If my memory serves me correctly, V.J. being a swinger sees only his #1 pressure point "drop off", he having no direct drive or active right arm extension at this pressure point. His pps #3,2, 4 taking care of business. A sort of throwaway prevention special procedure. The #3 is still very much in play sensing the lag and drag of the inertia he is nursing and is the only point of attachment of the right hand. Weird.
As for the other golfers and the effects of various hinge actions I can only speculate that for shots that are less than full powered and/or without horizontal hinging, they probably dont do it. I may be wrong. Phil almost looks to me like he is hitting with some of his wedges, especially when he stops briskly at both arms straight using angled hinging. Hard to say. Maybe he should try hitting some drivers?
"When I really hung back and approached the ball from the inside, I felt that if I turned the clubhead only a few degrees I'd hit a snap hook. That's why I used to take my right hand off the club - it was a desperate move to stop the club face from rolling over".
Thats interesting Srav. I guess in our terms, with his #1 pp off the grip he can bow his right hand while maintaining a flat left wrist, no effect on the club. Only his #3 is attached and sending messages of lag back to the brain.
TGM has such incredible diagnostic tools. And Homer Kelley figured this all out in his garage a half century ago? Amazing.
Truly amazing OB and very humbling when you consider the basic tools he was using and the fact that he was very much working alone.
VJ went on to say that in his new impact he is now "on top of the ball, not behind it." and "Since my approach angle is so much better, my move through the hitting zone is devoid of compensations like leaning back or letting go of the club with my right hand (although you’ll still see me do that from time to time). Now I’m more on top of the ball—my head is really into the shot. More important, I’m in better balance, which has had a positive impact on my release and finish positions......I never stop turning. A lot of amateurs hit the ball and then stop. Notice how the clubshaft points to the middle of my chest here in my release." (At Follow-through) "If you're guilty of stopping, the shaft will point somewhere else."
VJ appears to be in agreement here with Homer's observation that ' “Release” can well be considered a continuing action including Impact and Follow-through'
VJ went on to say that in his new impact he is now "on top of the ball, not behind it." and "Since my approach angle is so much better, my move through the hitting zone is devoid of compensations like leaning back or letting go of the club with my right hand (although you’ll still see me do that from time to time). Now I’m more on top of the ball—my head is really into the shot. More important, I’m in better balance, which has had a positive impact on my release and finish positions......I never stop turning.
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In 1687, Sir Issac Newton defined the Laws of Force and Motion. Those who would violate them -- golfer and non-golfer -- do so at their own peril. As was the case in all the earth's history.
In the instant study: The Centered [Head] Pivot is most congruent to the Centered [Arc] Golf Stroke (1-L-#1 and #2). V. J. has discovered this, as has Tiger.
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Not vice versa.
Remember, the Ballis where the Ball is. Except on the tee or when afforded relief, you cannot change it. Similarly, youare where you are. So, if when positioning your own Golfing Machine, you choose to locate the Ball in the 'middle' of your Stance, your Centered Head will now be 'over' the Ball. On the other hand, if you choose to locate the Ball in front of or behind your Centered Head, then your Head will be either 'behind' the Ball or 'in front' of it. Bottom line: Let your Centered Head Position dictate relative Ball Location, and ignore the cliche "stay behind the ball".
Yes, as explained, there is a casual relationship between the Head and the Ball. But, the key is not to keep the "Head behind the ball." Instead, through Impact, the real key is to . . .
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