Wrist Cock when Chipping Success

[300Drive]

Curious how many of you cock your wrist when chipping? I do and I see many guys on tour do so, esp for longer chips. Europeans do it a lot.

[Yoda]

Curious how many of you cock your wrist when chipping? I do and I see many guys on tour do so, esp for longer chips. Europeans do it a lot.

Chip Shots are the realm of the Arm Accumulators, i.e., Right Arm Drive (Linear Muscle Power / #1) or Left Arm Swing (Angular Radius Power / #4, usually with Pivot Transport). See 12-5-1.

Pitch Shots additionally involve the Hand Action Accumulators, i.e., Left Hand Turn and Roll (rotational Transfer Power / #3) and Left Wrist Cock and Uncock (perpendicular Velocity Power / #2). See 12-5-2.

Hitting or Swinging, longer Short Shots -- -- usually involve both Pivot Transport (of the Arms to Release) and Hand Action Transport (of the Club to Impact).

[brownman]

Chip Shots are the realm of the Arm Accumulators, i.e., Right Arm Drive (Linear Muscle Power / #1) or Left Arm Swing (Angular Radius Power / #4, usually with Pivot Transport). See 12-5-1.

Pitch Shots additionally involve the Hand Action Accumulators, i.e., Left Hand Turn and Roll (rotational Transfer Power / #3) and Left Wrist Cock and Uncock (perpendicular Velocity Power / #2). See 12-5-2.

Hitting or Swinging, longer Short Shots -- -- usually involve both Pivot Transport (of the Arms to Release) and Hand Action Transport (of the Club to Impact).

Yoda,thank you for coming in ,today I laid a club across my ball retreiver ,it stands about 2 ft high,this was placed on the edge of a sandscrape 6ft from hole,I stood about 15ft from and chipped using cut-shot using acc#4 and acc#2.
I hit 70 c/shots 3 never made it over but in general they were near hole or a couple ft past
This could only by me using wrist cock,the biggest surprise was me aiming the c/face "AT THE HOLE" ,just how accurate it was,I always had to open blade up to get the ball to react that way,but to me, that open face reeked of me guessing where it would go so to speak,now Im getting a lot more confident.
My chipping had always let me down,and I blame my own lack of confidence ,hopefully I will improve. Tomorrow Ill concentrate on lob shot

[nuke99]

there is ways to just zero out the no.3 accumulators.. easiest way to do it . I think Runyan does it this way. TT does itthis way..

Also,

there is another way,, very Narrow backwing which require early cock of the left wrist but a very wide downswing and later uncock of the left wrist, this will have a more ball turf impact and thus lower flight like what Stan Utley taught . so I would think its trajectory.

add a little open or shut face, get a different ball reaction.

[brownman]

Thanks nuke,today I tried the lob shot,not a good day.VJ said that there is really 1 main difference twixt lob and cut shot and that is ball position.
I tried everything ,but just not confident on the shot (blades),I might give the lob up and concentrate on swingers chip and cut shot.
The amount of times I,ll use it does,nt justify all the practice,you mentioned in previous post there are other ways to zero out accs,can you advise me,keeping in mind that my aim is to build a solid short game around the greens
Thanks for input

[brownman]

I almost gave up on learning the lob shot,but not being a quitter I kept going .Somewhere here on LBG I read that there had to be a out to out motion for the lob,I really dont know where I read it,but it works a treat.

My main concern at the time was that by doing this,I thought I would be bending the plane and that is a no-no,the only thing is that made the manipulation of the hands during the reverse roll somehow brings it back into line.Does anybody have any thoughts here on this.

[Uppndownn]

Curious how many of you cock your wrist when chipping? I do and I see many guys on tour do so, esp for longer chips. Europeans do it a lot.

For me cocking the wrist in the chipping stroke usually works wonders. Especially on dicey lies in longer grass around some of the greens. I still want to get that shot resulting in the down, out, and forward motion, and the wrist cock makes it easier to do. I can get my hands leading down and out.
I hope this helps.

UPP in Spring is here Ohio

[brownman]

Regarding my previous post involving the out to out "FEEL",I still beleive homer was spot on by him saying the plane should not be disrupted,I stood against a flat wall with the clubface against the wall and slowly took it back and through to finish (about 3ft back-3ft through),whilst it was definetly on plane it felt like out-out,retaing flw.

[nuke99]

brownman,

There are other way to do it.. for sure ..

A cut is the face is Open to the path thus creating a slice spin, thus the ball checks slightly to the right when hit to the ground.

Or we could play a more On plane shot ... the ball would basically tracks straight foward .

Or the face is closed to the path.. hook spin...

hand ahead of club at impact, or inline with club or club ahead of hand on impact.. could yield different trajectory again.. the Impact fix are only guidelines. FLW is not an essential in shortgame, the rule can be broken to create different trajectory.. ie it could be flipping for a higher trajectory thus lob is just another way..

and we could use different amount of acc 3 to vary rhythm, angle of attack, again have an effect on trajectory and spin.

and width of backswing and throughswing to control the inline conditions and release...

So.. there are really choices and variables we need to understand..The ball does react to Path,acceleration, clubface loft and angle...

But , in shortgame, the most important thing is the control of low points, ie stationary head, and weight kept at left feet. no secondary axis tilt etc...I think this is the essentials to short game.. The others are variable that we can learn to play with and understand how the ball reacts..

I suggest go study the books by Stan Utley, Runyan , Pelz various books to understand to find out the choices. I personally rate Stan the easiest to understand and effective.

[brownman]

thanks for input,,,appreciated