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Old 02-21-2008, 11:16 AM
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A lesson for Tiger
I caught a bit of the match play yesterday, and it looks like Tiger is really struggling with a misunderstanding of alignments.

His misses are high right with the driver/full power.

His misses are pulled left with the shorter irons.

Both of which are caused by his high right forearm at address, and a mistaken perception that "address is impact" (per his book).

The problem with this is that if he thinks he needs to return to his address postion, he is almost certain to arrive with the right foream above plane.

From that position, he either must either:

a) completely surrender to CF (his good shots, with good Rhythm)

or

b) come in over plane when not at full power (pulled miss)

c) at full power, properly send the right shoulder down plane, but given the high right forearm address, an instant under plane block.

The solution:

A properly set right forearm flying wedge at address, with a level right wrist.

An understanding that address and impact are not the same and that the right shoulder must go down plane (which he did very well in 2000).


Tiger has always looked to my eye to trend toward hitting, but his new pattern is a swing. He has the pattern 'almost' down, but that poor right forearm forces him to try to 'save' a shot with the hands, or worse, the shoulder.

Even as good as the greatest player ever is, he can not escape the laws of physics and geometry!

If I had Tiger on the lesson tee - lesson 1 would be impact fix and the flying wedges alignments!
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:49 AM
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Great Post. John Reigger stated, in an ealier post on this site, that he hoped Tiger did not find out about TGM. There seem to be only a few tour players who set the right forearm on plane, or a right arm flying wedge. They are great players becuase of theit talent and athletecism, but do struggle with the bain of all golfers inconsistency.

Porper impact fix alignments among the tours elite and look out. What kind of G.O.L.F. would we see then? I personally dream of the day we see it.
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
I caught a bit of the match play yesterday, and it looks like Tiger is really struggling with a misunderstanding of alignments.

His misses are high right with the driver/full power.

His misses are pulled left with the shorter irons.

Both of which are caused by his high right forearm at address, and a mistaken perception that "address is impact" (per his book).

The problem with this is that if he thinks he needs to return to his address postion, he is almost certain to arrive with the right foream above plane.

From that position, he either must either:

a) completely surrender to CF (his good shots, with good Rhythm)

or

b) come in over plane when not at full power (pulled miss)

c) at full power, properly send the right shoulder down plane, but given the high right forearm address, an instant under plane block.

The solution:

A properly set right forearm flying wedge at address, with a level right wrist.

An understanding that address and impact are not the same and that the right shoulder must go down plane (which he did very well in 2000).


Tiger has always looked to my eye to trend toward hitting, but his new pattern is a swing. He has the pattern 'almost' down, but that poor right forearm forces him to try to 'save' a shot with the hands, or worse, the shoulder.

Even as good as the greatest player ever is, he can not escape the laws of physics and geometry!

If I had Tiger on the lesson tee - lesson 1 would be impact fix and the flying wedges alignments!
Ed,

Another great post. Please elaborate on what "high right forearn" is.

I can visualize it over or under plane, and only one of them is probably correct.

Thanks,

UPP in freezing Ohio
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:06 PM
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Tiger hits those whackjob shots because he has his upperbody hanging back and his arms running away from him . . . too tilty. It's a bob thing.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:57 PM
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Tiger hits those whackjob shots because he has his upperbody hanging back and his arms running away from him . . . too tilty. It's a bob thing.
A 'result' of bad alignments.
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Tiger hits those whackjob shots because he has his upperbody hanging back and his arms running away from him . . . too tilty. It's a bob thing.
He needs to lose the obsession with firing his hips. This leads to him having his hips too face on to the target on full out shots, before his shoulders and arms reach their preordained destination. Hence the blocks right.

When he does slow the hips down his shoulders and arms, which usually struggle to keep pace with the Driver, often outrun the hips in his Iron play.

You gonna' tell him, or will I?
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:02 PM
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He "needs" to set his head lower at address, don't you think? He looks like a Sumo starting down...el squatto!
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Ed,
Amazing post. Even a TGM idiot like me understands exactly what you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
A 'result' of bad alignments.
Maybe loading right and hanging back . . . His iron swing looks different to me more centered and on top of it.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:54 PM
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He needs to lose the obsession with firing his hips. This leads to him having his hips too face on to the target on full out shots, before his shoulders and arms reach their preordained destination. Hence the blocks right.

When he does slow the hips down his shoulders and arms, which usually struggle to keep pace with the Driver, often outrun the hips in his Iron play.

You gonna' tell him, or will I?
I just left him a message . . . He called back and said for you to show up at his place in Florida. Said to bang on the door as hard as you can. He really likes to hear Free Bird sung really loud about 3:30 in the morning. He said to let you know if he doesn't come to the door immeadiately just keep singing really loud to the guards. They love to be entertained. Also he said something about making sure that you show up just in your tighty whiteez. He said give him a few minutes and he'll be right down to greet you. You may as well book the flight. He wants you there ASAP.

Get to steppin'!!!
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