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Old 02-08-2008, 11:11 PM
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Why does this happen
No matter what i do, anything and everything..on the takeaway i stop for a look (during practice) at the clubhead when the shaft tries to get parallel.

For the life of me i DON'T know why but i always shut the face of the club.....WHY?

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hjacknicklaus View Post
No matter what i do, anything and everything..on the takeaway i stop for a look (during practice) at the clubhead when the shaft tries to get parallel.

For the life of me i DON'T know why but i always shut the face of the club.....WHY?

ANY ANSWER even a wrong one will be appreciated

thanks
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Overbending the Right Wrist?
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hjacknicklaus View Post
No matter what i do, anything and everything..on the takeaway i stop for a look (during practice) at the clubhead when the shaft tries to get parallel.

For the life of me i DON'T know why but i always shut the face of the club.....WHY?

ANY ANSWER even a wrong one will be appreciated

thanks
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HJ,

A clubface that appears "shut" during that part of the backswing may actually be "ok" if you're a hitter. The hitter's takeaway has no swivel so it's as if you keep the face "looking" at the ball during the takeaway.

If you're a swinger it sounds like you haven't performed a start-up swivel.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:39 PM
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define "shut" . . . it is implicit in your post that shut = bad . . .what does the club look like? Is it "shut" by your definition at the top?
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:42 PM
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Thanks for the help

bucket, can you please explain just a bit more of your answer....and if you could advise how to bend it...

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Old 02-09-2008, 12:01 AM
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Let me see , how to explain it.

the club face at setup is facing the alternate target line

i start back and i look at the club face and it has gone from where it began to closed.

Wish i could explain it better

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Old 02-09-2008, 12:02 AM
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Thanks for the help

bucket, can you please explain just a bit more of your answer....and if you could advise how to bend it...

Thanks
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How do you have your left hand on the grip? If you "over bend" it will "arch" your left wrist. BUT if you have your left hand strong and you have a "visually" flat left wrist it's going to result in a shut face.

BUT there are plenty of cats have won Majors with a shut face.

So you gotta figure out do you want to fix it or not . . .

What do your bad shots do?

Basically you want to bend your right wrist enough to get the butt end of the club to be in-line with your left forearm. Stick a straightened coat hanger in the butthole (somebody please knock this one outta the joint) . . . see how your left wrist and your right wrist have to look in order to get the butt to line up with your arm.

That's how the Left Arm Flying Wedge works . . . BUT . . . there are plenty who have done other stuff . . .see below.

Here's "weak" grip "in-line" face



Here's "strong" grip "in-line" face (note the bend to keep it in line)


Here's "strong" grip arched "shut" (note the butt and the left arm OUT OF LINE)
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Old 02-09-2008, 12:10 AM
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The main...(well one of them) problem....is when the club is shut the right elbow is flying away from my side


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Old 02-09-2008, 12:25 AM
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The main...(well one of them) problem....is when the club is shut the right elbow is flying away from my side


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Yes, It's obvious. You don't have to go into detail, it's too painful.

Have you considered that after you've done that a thousand times and it still doesn't work, that you might get better results if you try something else?

Please try 10-18-B.
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Old 02-09-2008, 12:29 AM
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Are you hitting or swinging?

Let impact fix guide you as to the amount of right wrist bend you need to support a FLV left wrist. I like to start from a form of fix (I generally swing) so as to NEVER disturb me wedges. Adding bend to the right wrist as Bucket said will cause the left wrist to arch. Keep the right wrist frosty. You can talk to an arched left wrist but a bent one don’t listen! Flat is optimal. It is not so much where the elbow is pointing, but whether or not it is supporting the loading! “It is not an elbow thing, but a loading thing.” - Yoda

Check out your own picture of Nicklaus at the top of his backswing (St. Andrews 18th tee) His elbow looks to be flying, but his flying wedges ain’t lying! Was it you?

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