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Old 12-26-2005, 11:47 PM
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would like to go to classes but to busy on tour any ideas.how about an online class for us traveling stiffs
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:00 AM
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would like to go to classes but to busy on tour any ideas.how about an online class for us traveling stiffs
Great idea, John. I personally think it has tremendous merit (at least as a substantial part of the curriculum).

But...

The only TGM certification allowed these days is through the official 'on campus' courses of The Golfing Machine, LLC. And presently, the only instructor is the owner, Joe Daniels. At some point, there may be cyber-courses, but I haven't yet heard any such rumblings.

Until then, just boot up Lynn Blake Golf after your day between the yellow ropes. Heck, make us your Home Page! We keep things hoppin' around here, everybody learns a ton and we love hearing from you.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:13 AM
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maybe you and rob can get in his ear about doing this.it has a tremendus amount of potential.definitely reach out to more people,which means spreading the truth and also more money
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:21 AM
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maybe you and rob can get in his ear about doing this.it has a tremendus amount of potential.definitely reach out to more people,which means spreading the truth and also more money
You're preachin' to the choir, John.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:50 AM
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I could not agree more, guys.

I will do my part to 'get in his ear.'

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Old 12-27-2005, 01:18 AM
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I could not agree more, guys.

I will do my part to 'get in his ear.'


"For the want of a nail the shoe was lost. For the want of a shoe the horse was lost. For the want of a horse the rider was lost. For the want of a rider the battle was lost. For the want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail."

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Go for it, Brian. You in your way and me in mine. One thing is certain...

If the TGM 'kingdom' is lost, it will not be for lack of nails.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:18 AM
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Personally,
I feel online classes have merit - but feel certification should be done by a GSED in person only.

Last February, Lynn and myself posed a bunch of idea's to Danny Elkins (former co-owner of TGM) and Joe Daniels (sole owner now). While Danny seemed more interested in the potential of the internet, Joe seemed less interested.

For myself - there is not doubt to the endless contributions the internet can make - if used correctly. Alot of the current funding coming through TGM is a direct result of the path's laid by those whom, 3 years ago, started bombarding Chuck with questions on his first site. Then it snowballed - and it's obvious today alot of knowledge can be gained (not to mention branding/marketing, etc) from the internet.

However - although one can speak about the concepts from learning online, I personally feel it is invaluable to learn in person from a competent AI, if only to ensure application is accurate.

But...the online classes certainly have merit, just not sure about true certification and John, I certainly feel your pain. Personally, I would comp tour players if only for the exposure. In fact, I would travel to them....
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Online creates a wonderful ground work for study- so much in fact that I think many that have been at this for a while (online) and have attended any "fog lifting" should be able to pass the first part of the first Level. It would only benefit Joe and therefore TGM if that first section of Level One could be taken, for a fee (say $500) and if passed then a journey to part two Level One should be taken. If failed, Joe can then require that the applicant take both parts. I think it would increase the number of AI's.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:14 PM
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Okay gang, tell me....

1. Why do we want to increase the number of AI's if they are not going to golf instructors?

2. Why does someone who is not going to be a golf instructor want to become recognized as an AI?

3. Without practical hands on application, does it make sense that anyone should be recognized as an AI?

Obviously an online school could support the book work, but without good demonstrations and images, you can in fact walk away with the incorrect understanding of the principles and concepts.

Just wondering why and what value there is in pushing TGM certification on non-golf instructors. Without a doubt there is great value in getting golf instructors certified. Guess the money into the TGM LLC might help move things forward?!?
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