Is there reasons to select 10-3-A Punch, in stead od 10-3-B Pitch when swinging. I have not been able to locate much info on this here but I am of the "impression" that most discussion on this forum is with 10-3-A even for swingers. Because of sequenced release the palm should remain up during #2 release and as the left wrist is uncocking the right forearm is allowing this without unbending the right wrist. At the point the LFFW swivels to vertical the right forearm still has a long way to go. I have a problem with running out of right arm unless I exagerate the down plane right shoulder to the point where it must be well past parallel to the plane line ie. estimateing 30 degrees past . because I can't move my right arm fast enough that it swings freely and retains #3 pp Now with the pitch stroke the elbow is in a position to move smoothly and allow the right forearm to fan through retaining #3pp feel.
Can you help me with a better understanding of the why? for right elbow/forearm/sholder anction as it relates to pitch vs. punch when swinging?
Is there reasons to select 10-3-A Punch, in stead od 10-3-B Pitch when swinging. I have not been able to locate much info on this here but I am of the "impression" that most discussion on this forum is with 10-3-A even for swingers. Because of sequenced release the palm should remain up during #2 release and as the left wrist is uncocking the right forearm is allowing this without unbending the right wrist. At the point the LFFW swivels to vertical the right forearm still has a long way to go. I have a problem with running out of right arm unless I exagerate the down plane right shoulder to the point where it must be well past parallel to the plane line ie. estimateing 30 degrees past . because I can't move my right arm fast enough that it swings freely and retains #3 pp Now with the pitch stroke the elbow is in a position to move smoothly and allow the right forearm to fan through retaining #3pp feel.
Can you help me with a better understanding of the why? for right elbow/forearm/sholder anction as it relates to pitch vs. punch when swinging?
I don't know that I completely understand what you are asking, but pitch elbow is certainly more compatible for swingers. Part of running out of right arm may be coming from roundhousing, a collision with the right hip. Get that right elbow down in front of the right hip before the hips fire too much.
The punch position in your case may be the result of that collision.
A great Yoda drill that you may have seen in other posts, put a dowel in your front belt loops (across the front of your waist). You'll quickly see how you have to get that elbow down in front of the hip before the hips open to get into pitch position and have some right arm left for impact.
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Can you help me with a better understanding of the why? for right elbow/forearm/sholder anction as it relates to pitch vs. punch when swinging?
The why is that the further forward you can bring your right elbow the later and snappier release you can have.
But what you say about right arm not moving fast enough etc... makes me suspect that you have issues with the synchronization between arms and pivot. Are your arms running away from the pivot perhaps? Your arms should be lagging the pivot all the way through the ball. And you should feel the lag pressure - that the "rope" is tight until low point - through your left hand and your left shoulder. Trying to hit down down down - or even trying to hit down far behind the ball - may help to maintain the lag all the way. Same with thinking that the swing should be completed by a big, long finish.
I only run out of arm if I swing with a punch motion. I believe that as HK says that the pitch motion is better with a swinging motion BUT after examining this forum I see no discussion of the elbow "down and in front" for a pitch motion for swinging in fact it looks as if the punch motion is used in swinging in most of the video clips, I will use the pitch elbow because it does not create the problems (for me ) I posted above. I think when a change is made from a punch stroke to a pitch stroke the contrast is stark. I just do not see the pitch in the clips no do I read about it. Am I not correct that if swinging in either the basic or acquired motion the pitch requires the elbow in front before #2 release? AND even for these very short strokes the club must be swung back/up/in? Then the elbow would be left in front on these very short strokes rather than at the side. Hope I can communicate this better, don't know.
I would like to restate:
I wrote in above as Re: my results of my action. Let me restate with Geometry.
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..."ALWAYS"...
"I" can not do this if I do not use a pitch with swinging and punch with hitting (and push with vertical hinge) and that "seems" true for ALL strokes-
The fact is YOU CAN PUSH A STRING- (I will leave U with that bit of devilish comment)
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